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Re: Dismal Chevy Malibu Sales[mz6greyghost] [thegraduate] [captain2] [thegr
by akirby
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Jul 03, 2008 (7:15 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jul 03, 2008 6:57 am)
Yeah right IN MEXICO
Last time I checked Louisville, KY and Avon Lake, OH were in the United States. But don't let the facts stop your biased tirades.
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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [backy]
by jeffyscott
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Jul 03, 2008 (7:23 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 02, 2008 5:07 pm)
Interior volume is a silly way to categorize cars as demonstrated by the fact that EPA says the Malibu is midsize but the Pontiac G6 is compact.
Prius is not midsize on the inside or the outside. Here are inside measurements of width:
Front Shoulder Room 55 in.
Rear Shoulder Room 52.9 in..
Front Hip Room 51 in.
Rear Hip Room 51.6 in.
Here they are for the barely midsize Mazda6:
Front Shoulder Room 55.9 in.
Rear Shoulder Room 55.2 in..
Front Hip Room 54.7 in.
Rear Hip Room 54.1 in.
More empty space above your head, under the windshield, and wherever else the Prius has added volume over actual midsize cars, does not make a narrow car midsize, no matter what EPA classifications may say about it.
The inside and outside dimensions of the Prius are similar to other compacts, such as Corolla, Civic, Jetta.
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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [dave8697]
by packer3
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Jul 03, 2008 (8:27 am)
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Replying to: dave8697 (Jul 02, 2008 5:51 pm)
Use your money more wisely, stay away from the G6 it's identical to the old Malibu, if your going to use your points get the new Malibu. Or better yet test drive them both and drive them hard you will see a big difference.
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Re: Dismal Chevy Malibu Sales[mz6greyghost] [thegraduate] [captain2] [thegr [akirby] [captain2] [thegraduate] [captain2] [backy] [captain2] [backy] [elroy5] [backy] [elroy5] [backy] [elroy5] [backy]
by packer3
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Jul 03, 2008 (8:31 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 02, 2008 5:02 pm)
The Sonata sales increase is really due to getting a better bang for your buck like in options vs the Acc. & Cam.
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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [kdshapiro]
by mcdawgg
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Jul 03, 2008 (8:41 am)
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Jul 03, 2008 6:36 am)
Not a tough market for Camry either. Camry was down a little in June, but in May Camry sold 51k, vs. 44k for the Accord. They both dominate the segment, and the biggest problem Toyota and Honda have is the huge demand for these cars.
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- #10079 of 13340
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Re: Dismal Chevy Malibu Sales[mz6greyghost] [thegraduate] [captain2] [thegr [akirby] [captain2] [thegraduate] [captain2] [backy] [captain2] [backy] [elroy5] [backy] [elroy5] [backy] [elroy5] [backy] [packer3]
by thegraduate
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Jul 03, 2008 (8:45 am)
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Replying to: packer3 (Jul 03, 2008 8:31 am)
The Sonata sales increase is really due to getting a better bang for your buck like in options vs the Acc. & Cam.
But it has always had more bang for your buck vs. Camry and Accord, since the current model Sonata debuted a few years ago. That doesn't explain the current increase. The upgrades to the interior does (I'd look a lot harder at it now than I did back in '05 when I decided on my Accord).
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Re: Dismal Chevy Malibu Sales[mz6greyghost] [thegraduate] [captain2] [thegr [akirby]
by captain2
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Jul 03, 2008 (8:49 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Jul 03, 2008 7:15 am)
so now they don't produce the Fusion in Mexico as well as many of their trucks and engines etc., and they didn't just make a wonderful decision to refit a truck plant down there to produce their new Fiesta?????
Your continual company shill lines get very tiring and then you accuse me of not having my facts straight? 
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Re: Dismal Chevy Malibu Sales[mz6greyghost] [thegraduate] [captain2] [thegr [akirby] [captain2] [thegraduate] [captain2] [backy] [captain2] [backy] [elroy5] [backy] [elroy5] [backy] [elroy5] [backy] [packer3] [thegraduate]
by packer3
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Jul 03, 2008 (8:50 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 03, 2008 8:45 am)
Three years ago the economy wasn't as it is today so money becomes more important in peoples hands, they will be satisified with a second rat car because they belive what people write about the car especially CR, check out the banging noise from the front end issuse on the Sonta going over simple bumps, did CR report that.
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Re: Dismal Chevy Malibu Sales[mz6greyghost] [thegraduate] [captain2] [thegr
by akirby
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Jul 03, 2008 (8:57 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jul 03, 2008 8:49 am)
I said they were refitting truck and suv plants to make more cars and you implied that they were only doing this in Mexico, which isn't true.
You also conveniently forget that Ford moved Focus production OUT of Mexico and BACK to the U.S. exclusively back in 2005. It works both ways.
One reason they build vehicles in Mexico is because they can be exported to Latin and South America without tariffs or restrictions.
Don't gripe about the Fiesta not being built in the U.S. while the Fit, Yaris, Versa and almost all other B cars are also imported. I'm tired of seeing Ford get bashed while the imports get a free pass for doing the SAME THING.
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Re: Dismal Chevy Malibu Sales[mz6greyghost] [thegraduate] [captain2] [thegr [akirby]
by captain2
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Jul 03, 2008 (9:42 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Jul 03, 2008 8:57 am)
well don't get too tired of watching Ford get bashed - they deserve it for putting more Americans out of work than any other American based Co. (I can think of) They could have refitted one of the dozens of US plants they have recently closed to build the 'new' subcompact but no-o-o , let's support the Mexican economy. Toyota, Nissan, and Hyundai, for example, can spend literally billions building plants all over this country not to mention provided tens of thousands of employed taxpayers. Right now and apparently in the future the only country that may benefit from Ford's existence is probably Mexico - economically Ford probably does more damage than good in this country, and it's getting worse.
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