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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [dave8697]
by cccompson
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Jul 03, 2008 (3:26 am)
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Replying to: dave8697 (Jul 02, 2008 5:51 pm)
A interesting post and indicative of GM's plight - the customer expects a trouble-free vehicle at a giveaway price.
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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [cccompson]
by backy
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Jul 03, 2008 (4:56 am)
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Replying to: cccompson (Jul 03, 2008 3:26 am)
Also indicative of the extremely tough market for mid-sized cars, and vehicles in general this year. The fact is, reliable if not trouble-free mid-sized cars are available for a give-away price these days--and not just the G6. For example, how about a nicely equipped sedan with all the power accessories, ESC/traction, six airbags, decent audio system with at least six speakers, CD/MP3 (and maybe satellite radio), and possibly other niceties like alloys and fog lamps for under $15k + T&L? These days it's impossible to find a new Civic or Corolla for that kind of money.
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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [backy]
by kdshapiro
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Jul 03, 2008 (6:36 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 03, 2008 4:56 am)
Also indicative of the extremely tough market for mid-sized cars,
It's a tough market for mid-size cars, but not a tough market for the Accord.
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Re: Dismal Chevy Malibu Sales[mz6greyghost] [thegraduate] [captain2] [thegr [akirby]
by captain2
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Jul 03, 2008 (6:57 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Jul 02, 2008 2:51 pm)
Watch how fast they convert truck/SUV plants to produce small cars.
Yeah right IN MEXICO, of course. As long as Ford (and the other 'American' Cos.) continue to put real Americans on the the unemployment line they will play hell getting any of my dollars.
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Re: Dismal Chevy Malibu Sales[mz6greyghost] [thegraduate] [captain2] [thegr
by akirby
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Jul 03, 2008 (7:15 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jul 03, 2008 6:57 am)
Yeah right IN MEXICO
Last time I checked Louisville, KY and Avon Lake, OH were in the United States. But don't let the facts stop your biased tirades.
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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [backy]
by jeffyscott
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Jul 03, 2008 (7:23 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 02, 2008 5:07 pm)
Interior volume is a silly way to categorize cars as demonstrated by the fact that EPA says the Malibu is midsize but the Pontiac G6 is compact.
Prius is not midsize on the inside or the outside. Here are inside measurements of width:
Front Shoulder Room 55 in.
Rear Shoulder Room 52.9 in..
Front Hip Room 51 in.
Rear Hip Room 51.6 in.
Here they are for the barely midsize Mazda6:
Front Shoulder Room 55.9 in.
Rear Shoulder Room 55.2 in..
Front Hip Room 54.7 in.
Rear Hip Room 54.1 in.
More empty space above your head, under the windshield, and wherever else the Prius has added volume over actual midsize cars, does not make a narrow car midsize, no matter what EPA classifications may say about it.
The inside and outside dimensions of the Prius are similar to other compacts, such as Corolla, Civic, Jetta.
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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [dave8697]
by packer3
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Jul 03, 2008 (8:27 am)
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Replying to: dave8697 (Jul 02, 2008 5:51 pm)
Use your money more wisely, stay away from the G6 it's identical to the old Malibu, if your going to use your points get the new Malibu. Or better yet test drive them both and drive them hard you will see a big difference.
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Re: Dismal Chevy Malibu Sales[mz6greyghost] [thegraduate] [captain2] [thegr [akirby] [captain2] [thegraduate] [captain2] [backy] [captain2] [backy] [elroy5] [backy] [elroy5] [backy] [elroy5] [backy]
by packer3
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Jul 03, 2008 (8:31 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 02, 2008 5:02 pm)
The Sonata sales increase is really due to getting a better bang for your buck like in options vs the Acc. & Cam.
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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [kdshapiro]
by mcdawgg
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Jul 03, 2008 (8:41 am)
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Jul 03, 2008 6:36 am)
Not a tough market for Camry either. Camry was down a little in June, but in May Camry sold 51k, vs. 44k for the Accord. They both dominate the segment, and the biggest problem Toyota and Honda have is the huge demand for these cars.
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Re: Dismal Chevy Malibu Sales[mz6greyghost] [thegraduate] [captain2] [thegr [akirby] [captain2] [thegraduate] [captain2] [backy] [captain2] [backy] [elroy5] [backy] [elroy5] [backy] [elroy5] [backy] [packer3]
by thegraduate
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Jul 03, 2008 (8:45 am)
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Replying to: packer3 (Jul 03, 2008 8:31 am)
The Sonata sales increase is really due to getting a better bang for your buck like in options vs the Acc. & Cam.
But it has always had more bang for your buck vs. Camry and Accord, since the current model Sonata debuted a few years ago. That doesn't explain the current increase. The upgrades to the interior does (I'd look a lot harder at it now than I did back in '05 when I decided on my Accord).
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