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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [backy]
by dave8697
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Jul 02, 2008 (5:51 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 02, 2008 5:07 pm)
So much pain over Camry getting to keep it's no. 1 spot. I have a different perspective. When I go buy my next car I will start looking at a G6. I'll want it at invoice or close to. I'll want $2500 in rebates. I'll want to use my $3400 in GM card earnings that I slowly accumulated over the 7 years since I last bought a new car. I'll expect it to be better than my last new GM, which has needed only a battery in 7 years. I have had experiences where driving a GM for it's full second decade has cost me less than $500 total in repairs, so the 'Gamble' thing is a mystery to me. Being burned by GM for me was when the '98 I have that I bought new needed $325 to fix a/c and then needed $275 to fix transmission all in a 2 year period about 3 years after I was done making payments. To put it short, I buy a new GM for 5-7k under sticker, pay it off in 18 months, then drive payment free for a decade and never have a single repair that ever comes close to the orig loan monthly pmt.
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Re: I guess I'll start? [bobgwtw]
by oldcem
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Jul 02, 2008 (7:49 pm)
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Replying to: bobgwtw (Jul 02, 2008 2:15 pm)
If you're willing to drop back to 219 HP, buy an Aura XE with the 3.5 V6. I have one for a business driver, and, she gets 30+ MPG running 75 on the interstate. Yeah, the engine is a low tech V6 with pushrods, but she loafs along at 2000 rpm at interstate speeds and doesn't scream her insides out going up hills.
REgards:
OldCEM
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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [dave8697]
by cccompson
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Jul 03, 2008 (3:26 am)
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Replying to: dave8697 (Jul 02, 2008 5:51 pm)
A interesting post and indicative of GM's plight - the customer expects a trouble-free vehicle at a giveaway price.
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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [cccompson]
by backy
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Jul 03, 2008 (4:56 am)
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Replying to: cccompson (Jul 03, 2008 3:26 am)
Also indicative of the extremely tough market for mid-sized cars, and vehicles in general this year. The fact is, reliable if not trouble-free mid-sized cars are available for a give-away price these days--and not just the G6. For example, how about a nicely equipped sedan with all the power accessories, ESC/traction, six airbags, decent audio system with at least six speakers, CD/MP3 (and maybe satellite radio), and possibly other niceties like alloys and fog lamps for under $15k + T&L? These days it's impossible to find a new Civic or Corolla for that kind of money.
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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [backy]
by kdshapiro
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Jul 03, 2008 (6:36 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 03, 2008 4:56 am)
Also indicative of the extremely tough market for mid-sized cars,
It's a tough market for mid-size cars, but not a tough market for the Accord.
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Re: Dismal Chevy Malibu Sales[mz6greyghost] [thegraduate] [captain2] [thegr [akirby]
by captain2
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Jul 03, 2008 (6:57 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Jul 02, 2008 2:51 pm)
Watch how fast they convert truck/SUV plants to produce small cars.
Yeah right IN MEXICO, of course. As long as Ford (and the other 'American' Cos.) continue to put real Americans on the the unemployment line they will play hell getting any of my dollars.
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- #10074 of 13292
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Re: Dismal Chevy Malibu Sales[mz6greyghost] [thegraduate] [captain2] [thegr
by akirby
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Jul 03, 2008 (7:15 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jul 03, 2008 6:57 am)
Yeah right IN MEXICO
Last time I checked Louisville, KY and Avon Lake, OH were in the United States. But don't let the facts stop your biased tirades.
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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [backy]
by jeffyscott
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Jul 03, 2008 (7:23 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 02, 2008 5:07 pm)
Interior volume is a silly way to categorize cars as demonstrated by the fact that EPA says the Malibu is midsize but the Pontiac G6 is compact.
Prius is not midsize on the inside or the outside. Here are inside measurements of width:
Front Shoulder Room 55 in.
Rear Shoulder Room 52.9 in..
Front Hip Room 51 in.
Rear Hip Room 51.6 in.
Here they are for the barely midsize Mazda6:
Front Shoulder Room 55.9 in.
Rear Shoulder Room 55.2 in..
Front Hip Room 54.7 in.
Rear Hip Room 54.1 in.
More empty space above your head, under the windshield, and wherever else the Prius has added volume over actual midsize cars, does not make a narrow car midsize, no matter what EPA classifications may say about it.
The inside and outside dimensions of the Prius are similar to other compacts, such as Corolla, Civic, Jetta.
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