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Replying to: moocow1 (Jul 02, 2008 1:11 pm) Was there a typo in there? Using your numbers, I came out with the Camry doing worse in terms of dollars (loss of $6000 after 3 years vs. Sonata at $5500). Which illustrates the point I made earlier very well--the higher-priced car tends to come out well on depreciation on the percentages, maybe not as well as dollars out of pocket. |
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Replying to: backy (Jul 02, 2008 1:16 pm)  Then again having the highest fuel economy 4 door vehicle will do that. I'm reminded of the hoarde of ford escape hybrid taxis I've seen. Hybrids will sell just for the fuel advantage. |
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Replying to: akirby (Jul 02, 2008 1:20 pm) now THAT is exactly what the problem is. The reason why the Fusion couldn't have better engines 3 years ago is why??? Ford will never again be a player in this segment if they are always the last to show up at the party.
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Replying to: captain2 (Jul 02, 2008 1:06 pm) That is a good question. Based on what I've seen and read about the all-new Mazda6, it should be competitive with the best in class in performance and interior room, offer class-leading styling (subjective of course), a great blend of ride and handling, and be competitively priced with the likes of the Sonata and Malibu. If it's all that and still can't make more of a mark in the mid-sized market, then I don't know what else Mazda can do. Maybe take over Ford?
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Replying to: backy (Jul 02, 2008 1:31 pm) |
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Replying to: captain2 (Jul 02, 2008 1:06 pm) The new Mazda6 is equipped with its new 2.5L, which has gotten rave reviews for smoothness and refinement. According to all who have driven it, it is more then a worthy competitor, and should do very well. |
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Replying to: backy (Jul 02, 2008 1:31 pm) best not change unless they want to alienate the few loyalists they do have.
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Replying to: captain2 (Jul 02, 2008 1:39 pm) Every indication is that Mazda has made the next 6 more "mainstream" while still retaining the handling and style expected by Mazda afficionados. We'll see if that's enough.
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Replying to: captain2 (Jul 02, 2008 1:27 pm) Honda jumped the shark last year, with their redesign. Gained weight, lost mpg with both I4 and V6, and have some issues with the VCM. They're definitely vulnerable now......... Of course that remains to be seen.... back in '96 when Ford jumped the shark with their Taurus redesign, they were still midsize sales champs in '96. But afterwards, when it became apparent the new Taurus wasn't as good as the previous design {92 thru 95} sales dropped off, and never recovered. Just possibly Honda is smart enough to quickly recover before the Accord does the same thing........ I'm not so sure that Mazda's redesign was all that smart at this time too, because again, we have a weight gain. Though only 150 lbs or so......... Being later to the table, allows Ford to make hay now {Hyundai could gain too}. If the new 3L is efficient enough {yeah, I know, big question yet}, then Ford having the lighter platform, may very well become the V6 midsize mileage leader. Doesn't sound all that crazy really, when you realize that the '08 Taurus is EPA rated at 18/28 which is better than many in this class, then lives up to it in the "Real World MPG"........If Ford can do the same thing with the Fusion/ Milan, watch out......... |
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Replying to: perna (Apr 13, 2007 11:49 am) good handling, quiet & good ride. Some niggling complaints, poor placement of some controls, reflections on the radio screen, and inadequate mileage. about 28 - 29/5 tops at 65 to 70 mph cruise. I'd consider buying one if the mpg was better.
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