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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 02, 2008 11:47 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jul 02, 2008 12:14 pm) Based on my limited time with the models, my ranking would be: Altima - Sporty character, right size, great 4-cyl acceleration and economy Accord - Comfortable size, best "drive" of the bunch, but too big and stodgy now for this young man Sonata - Value leader, pleasing ride and economy, but otherwise a yawn Malibu - Easily the most stylish to this young man, decent economy with the 6-speed/4-cyl combo, but lacking room and polish Camry - Do I even have to go there? I fall asleep typing about...ZZZZZZZZZZ
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Replying to: mz6greyghost (Jul 02, 2008 10:55 am) Perhaps you failed to notice that sales are trending down every month, not up. GM spent over $100 million on sales promotion on this new Malibu, a figure higher than for the Accord, Camry and Altima combined. Still, the 86% increase from June 2007 is not a valid comparison as the new Malibu is a totally different car that was expected to appeal to a wider audience including the coveted import buyer. Instead what they got with the new Bu is an older demographic. Well, it won't be long before they turn to the Impala playbook. Heavy discounting and other sales incentives such as zero percent financing and free OnStar and XM for life. |
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 02, 2008 12:19 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jul 02, 2008 12:27 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (Jul 02, 2008 12:32 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jul 02, 2008 12:47 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 02, 2008 12:51 pm) Wonder what ever happened to plans to put a decent V6 in the Ford. I guess the Mazda 6 gets blessed with something more competitive simply because it sells many fewer copies than the Ford version. I'm sure that akirby will be happy to fill us in on the latest 'promise' out of a long list of unfufilled promises. |
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jul 02, 2008 10:14 am) Hypothetical Example: 2009 Sonata bought at $16.5k, retail cost 20k, resale value after 3 years at 11k, 33% loss off buy price, 45% loss off retail 2009 Camry bought at $19k, retail cost 20.5k, resale value after 3 years at 13k, - 31.5% loss, 37% loss off retail. Let's say these are the numbers for resale. On a dollar amount, the sonata is worse. On a percentage, the sonata is worse. On the ACTUAL costs, the sonata completely wins. You paid less to start, you paid less overall after selling. Nobody freaking actually uses these values. All I ever see is bs with resale percentages and resale based off retail and resale based off completely wrong "True market values". Sonata blows everyone away in costs using legit values that I've calculated myself. This doesn't even include the extra value of having cash from not paying more up front. Anyways my original thought is that the sonata might improve from selling for 11k in 3 years to being 11.3k or something. A sensible change due to a better car and increasing interest.
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