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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: Dismal Chevy Malibu Sales[mz6greyghost] [thegraduate] [captain2] by thegraduate
Jul 02, 2008 (11:47 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jul 02, 2008 11:44 am)

I'd say the Malibu is no longer the bottom of the barrel car it used to be quality-wise. It's no Accord or Camry, but then again, to me, the new Accord and Camry aren't what they used to be either. The Malibu needs a fuel-efficient V6 and a 10% larger interior.
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Re: Dismal Chevy Malibu Sales[mz6greyghost] [thegraduate] [captain2] [thegraduate] by captain2
Jul 02, 2008 (12:14 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 02, 2008 11:47 am)

granted it is improved - but, then again, almost anything would have been an improvement. It should tell us all something though when we can look at genuinely competitive efforts like the Sonata and then wonder why our own 'Big 3' could only wish to manufacture something that good.
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Re: Dismal Chevy Malibu Sales[mz6greyghost] [thegraduate] [captain2] [thegraduate] [captain2] by thegraduate
Jul 02, 2008 (12:19 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jul 02, 2008 12:14 pm)

I'd go so far as to call it "competitive" with the Japanese Big Three.
 
Based on my limited time with the models, my ranking would be:
 
Altima - Sporty character, right size, great 4-cyl acceleration and economy
Accord - Comfortable size, best "drive" of the bunch, but too big and stodgy now for this young man
Sonata - Value leader, pleasing ride and economy, but otherwise a yawn
Malibu - Easily the most stylish to this young man, decent economy with the 6-speed/4-cyl combo, but lacking room and polish
Camry - Do I even have to go there? I fall asleep typing about...ZZZZZZZZZZ
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Re: Dismal Chevy Malibu June sales as usual [mz6greyghost] by bwia
Jul 02, 2008 (12:21 pm)
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Replying to: mz6greyghost (Jul 02, 2008 10:55 am)

To expect the Malibu to match the CamCord numbers on it's FIRST year of a redesign is simply ludicrous, and I'm sure GM has known this from the start.
 
Perhaps you failed to notice that sales are trending down every month, not up. GM spent over $100 million on sales promotion on this new Malibu, a figure higher than for the Accord, Camry and Altima combined.
 
Still, the 86% increase from June 2007 is not a valid comparison as the new Malibu is a totally different car that was expected to appeal to a wider audience including the coveted import buyer. Instead what they got with the new Bu is an older demographic. Well, it won't be long before they turn to the Impala playbook. Heavy discounting and other sales incentives such as zero percent financing and free OnStar and XM for life.
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Re: Dismal Chevy Malibu Sales[mz6greyghost] [thegraduate] [captain2] [thegraduate] [captain2] [thegraduate] by captain2
Jul 02, 2008 (12:27 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 02, 2008 12:19 pm)

the Ecotec 4 banger I would suggest to you is the Malibu's biggest liability particularily in a class (and at a time) where the 4s far outsell the 6s. The Fusion and Sebring engines are further testament to Detroit's inability to produce good small engines.
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Re: Dismal Chevy Malibu Sales[mz6greyghost] [thegraduate] [captain2] [thegr by akirby
Jul 02, 2008 (12:32 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jul 02, 2008 12:27 pm)

The Fusion gets a new 2.5L I4 in December.
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Re: Dismal Chevy Malibu Sales[mz6greyghost] [thegraduate] [captain2] [thegr [akirby] by captain2
Jul 02, 2008 (12:47 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (Jul 02, 2008 12:32 pm)

even if it is better - too little too late? A good engine of any type is a lot more than what it says on a spec sheet.
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Re: Dismal Chevy Malibu Sales[mz6greyghost] [thegraduate] [captain2] [thegr [akirby] [captain2] by thegraduate
Jul 02, 2008 (12:51 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jul 02, 2008 12:47 pm)

If it isn't too late for the Mazda 6, it isn't too late for the Ford Fusion.
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Dismal industry... by kdshapiro
Jul 02, 2008 (12:53 pm)
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http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=128330?imw=Y
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Re: Dismal Chevy Malibu Sales[mz6greyghost] [thegraduate] [captain2] [thegr [akirby] [captain2] [thegraduate] by captain2
Jul 02, 2008 (1:06 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 02, 2008 12:51 pm)

well now that's an interesting question - is it too late for the Mazda 6? - or more precisely can the Mazda ever be a major player in this segment - given its definitively limited market segment. The Fusion, at least, is a bit more 'mainstream' and therefore has more of a market presence.
 Wonder what ever happened to plans to put a decent V6 in the Ford. I guess the Mazda 6 gets blessed with something more competitive simply because it sells many fewer copies than the Ford version.
I'm sure that akirby will be happy to fill us in on the latest 'promise' out of a long list of unfufilled promises.

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