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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: RE 9979 & 9980 [bhmr59] by imidazol97
Jul 01, 2008 (4:26 am)
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Replying to: bhmr59 (Jun 30, 2008 6:34 pm)

I'm confused because your response is about Fords. I'm not sure you meant to reply to my post. I need more caffeine this morning!!!
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Re: RE 9979 & 9980 [aviboy97] by jeffyscott
Jul 01, 2008 (4:34 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jun 30, 2008 6:40 am)

Only if there were web sites that showed what mortgage brokers really made...Car dealers make not even 1% of that, and yet we all like to bash car dealers. Makes no sense.
 
The thing is, there also are not websites where mortgage brokers, etc. and their apologists constantly whine about how they make no money. Car dealers (meaning the owner not the sales people or other employees) seem to all be quite wealthy in my community, one way or another they are doing just fine.
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Hyundai up Sonata rebate by m6user
Jul 01, 2008 (6:31 am)
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Just saw a commercial on the Today show that stated that the rebate on the 2009 Sonata is now $2000. I assume this is nationwide since it was on the Today show. I reversed on my DVR to make sure I heard it correctly.
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Re: RE 9979 & 9980 [bhmr59] by akirby
Jul 01, 2008 (7:06 am)
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Replying to: bhmr59 (Jun 30, 2008 6:30 pm)

That is a dealer added fee and is not the same as the legitimate advertising fee that's already included in the dealer invoice price.
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Re: Hyundai up Sonata rebate [m6user] by backy
Jul 01, 2008 (9:42 am)
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Replying to: m6user (Jul 01, 2008 6:31 am)

HMA site hasn't been updated yet, but sometimes there are variations in the rebates by location so it bears checking there for what's applicable in your state. For example, last month some states had a $500 loyalty rebate on the Sonata and some didn't, and some had a $1500 rebate on the Elantra and others had $2000.
 
Edit: Ha, just noticed there's an ad just to the right here showing the new rebates on Hyundais, and when you click on it it shows the $2000 off on the Sonata (and still $1500 on the Elantra, which is interesting given how popular these are getting with fuel prices the way they are).
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Re: Hyundai up Sonata rebate [backy] by m6user
Jul 01, 2008 (10:18 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 01, 2008 9:42 am)

Yeah, I checked the Hyundai site as well. They seem to be at least 24-48hrs late updating sometimes. The military rebate expired 6/30 as well and they haven't replaced it with anything yet. I'm sure they will and I'm hoping it stays $1000 on the Sonata. If I can get a deal like Towne is giving I could get invoice-1900 discount-2000 rebate-1000 military rebate. That's close to $6000 off MSRP. I might just have to pull the trigger soon if these amounts stay applicable.
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Re: Hyundai up Sonata rebate [m6user] by moocow1
Jul 01, 2008 (3:05 pm)
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Replying to: m6user (Jul 01, 2008 10:18 am)

Hyundai, Honda, and Kia sales are up nicely in this tough environment. Sonata's heading toward 200-250k per year territory at this rate as it hit almost 17k for June, definitely a top buy in my book for midsize sedans. I'd expect resale is going to improve as well.
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Re: Hyundai up Sonata rebate [moocow1] by aviboy97
Jul 02, 2008 (7:21 am)
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Replying to: moocow1 (Jul 01, 2008 3:05 pm)

Resale will not go up as long as they continue to sell new for thousands less then the top dogs.
 
If you get a new Sonata for $16,000, and it suffers the industry average 20% deprecation in its first year, you are looking at a car worth $12,800 after year one, when it had a window sticker of around $20,000. Almost 50% value gone from MSRP. That's not too good. Mazda has this problem with the Mazda6. Hopefully the new Mazda6 will reverse this trend, since it is considerably more money they the outgoing one. Heck, a 2007 Mazda3 s is worth more then a 2007 Mazda6 i, when the Mazda6 cost more new.
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Ford Fusion 2.5L by thegraduate
Jul 02, 2008 (7:23 am)
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Is the 2.5L in the updated Fusion going to be the same engine that is in the new Mazda 6i ?
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Re: Hyundai up Sonata rebate [aviboy97] by backy
Jul 02, 2008 (7:37 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jul 02, 2008 7:21 am)

Forget the percentages when it comes to depreciation--look at actual dollars. Depreciation percentages favor the more expensive cars. Who cares if the car you bought depreciates 35% (not 50%, btw) off MSRP in the first year if you paid nothing close to MSRP? If you did pay MSRP, then that could be a problem--in a number of ways!

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