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#18195 of 18204 Stop by and say "hi" by kirstie_h HOST

May 21, 2013 (10:13 am)

to our latest featured member, who just happens to be a sedan owner: http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX/.f277491

#18196 of 18204 Re: Mazda 6 GT vs Accord EX-L shootout (June C/D) [backy] by cski

May 21, 2013 (12:18 pm)

Replying to: backy (May 21, 2013 8:58 am)
I especially like 6 Sport MT choice too, especially since a previous review said that the Mazda's light clutch would not be a problem for rush hour commuting. Also, It weighs only 3150 lbs. (210 less than the Accord Sport) There are 6 exterior paint options on the Sport, and you can choose either black or tan interiors. You have to move up to the Touring for more options, and C/D said that the seats in the GT looked AND felt like they came from a $50,000 car.
 
If the 6 was available in Dec 2011, I would have bought one. Really.

#18197 of 18204 Re: 2014 Ford Fusion [jaxs1] by explorerx4

May 21, 2013 (4:44 pm)

Replying to: jaxs1 (May 20, 2013 8:23 pm)
Some people will understand my point. I 'm not trying to convince anyone of anything, just to keep an open mind that rim size is only one component in a vehicle's handling/ride.

#18198 of 18204 configurable IP by explorerx4

May 21, 2013 (5:27 pm)

Once you have one, like my Fusion, anything without it seems 10 years old, or just cheap.

#18199 of 18204 Re: 2014 Ford Fusion [explorerx4] by m6user

May 21, 2013 (8:27 pm)

Replying to: explorerx4 (May 21, 2013 4:44 pm)
I think we are all smart enough to understand that suspension parts, quality, tuning, etc all contribute to the ride and drive of a car. We were talking in general terms that larger, thinner sidewall tires ride rougher given equal other parts and are more expensive when same brand and quality tires are concerned. Then you also have the rims. Haven't seen too many rims of the same quality and manufacture that were cheaper in the higher rim diameters. Some manufacturers do a pretty good job of integrating the larger wheel diameter without sacrificing a smooth ride but 9 times out of 10 in mainstream(non-luxury) one can tell the difference easily.

#18200 of 18204 Re: configurable IP [explorerx4] by m6user

May 21, 2013 (8:30 pm)

Replying to: explorerx4 (May 21, 2013 5:27 pm)
I like video games but just not in front of me while I'm driving. Too gimmicky for me. I guess I'm more of a traditionlist when it comes to speedos and tachs and like the look of quality instruments versus digital graphics. It's a personal taste thing and I can the appeal for some.

#18201 of 18204 Two 2014 Mazda 6's by tundradweller1

May 22, 2013 (8:06 am)

For your consideration,
A friend owns a Blue Reflex Touring and I have the Soul Red Sport.
He has been commenting on the pleather showing scratches/scuffs.
I was going to buy the Sport in blue but found it too far to the slate end of the spectrum for my tastes.
Note the rim sizes. The 17's while not as stylish still fill the wheel wells just fine.
He claims the 19's did well in the late season wet snow in March but I still have my doubts.
We go back and forth with jabs. I told him I didn't want nanny lights blinking at me every time a car passes. He touts the Nitrogen filled tires (green caps) give a better ride (clueless:) I put red valve caps on mine, when he asked about it I told him I had them filled with Helium to "lighten" the handling.
 
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/tundratom/2Mazdas_zps975f8f3c.jpg

#18202 of 18204 Re: Mazda 6 GT vs Accord EX-L shootout (June C/D) [cski] by benjaminh

May 22, 2013 (8:12 am)

Replying to: cski (May 21, 2013 12:18 pm)
All praise to Mazda for making such a great car!+++
 
But there are some of us who would prefer an Accord anyway. I've owned 2 Mazdas and 2 Hondas in my 33 year driving career, and although the Mazdas were good, I think the Hondas were higher quality in more areas.
 
Also, the Accord is built in the USA. Honda not only has a huge factory in Ohio to build the car, but huge separate factories to build engines and transmissions for the Accord. Plus there are other suppliers around the area building things for Honda, and all told Accord production employs tens of thousands of people in the Ohio area in good paying jobs. For some, this makes little difference, but for some of us this is a plus factor when buying a car to know that our money is flowing through the US economy in a productive way.
 
I've owned cars build in Japan, and Germany, and so that's not the be-all and end-all of a car purchase, but for some, as I said, it's a plus factor as long as the car is near or at the top.
 
I haven't read the test, or driven the Mazda, but for my tastes I'd probably go with the Accord.
 
But again, praise to Mazda for building an outstanding car. Excellent work. I think they'll sell a lot of them, and they deserve to...

#18203 of 18204 Re: Two 2014 Mazda 6's [tundradweller1] by cski

May 22, 2013 (9:37 am)

Replying to: tundradweller1 (May 22, 2013 8:06 am)
Ha ha ha ha. Helium to lighten the handling? OMG that is frackin' great!! LMAO. The nitrogen filled tires do not react with temperature like normal air filled tires. My local shell is offering Nitrogen for free by appointment, and there is a big sign that says "up to 25% better fuel economy". That is a pretty fantastic claim, but I highly doubt it unless you came in with 4 flat tires. Then I would believe 20%.
 
Thanks for the pic's, and I now see what you mean by "tundra-dweller"!!
 
It is more than a coincidence IMO that your Soul Red Sport looks a LOT like my Spicy Red Optima EX, right down to the cargo net and the mud-guards. Get your windows tinted!!! It looks awesome on red cars. You will be happy you did! I am thrilled with mine.

#18204 of 18204 Re: Mazda 6 GT vs Accord EX-L shootout (June C/D) [benjaminh] by cski

May 22, 2013 (9:36 am)

Replying to: benjaminh (May 22, 2013 8:12 am)
The last 2 generations of the 6, as well as the MX-6 and the Probe, were built on the same production facility in Flint Michigan.
Since this was an entirely new car from the ground up (which costs a fortune), and that it was such a make or break model for them in the U.S.; they kept production in Japan for Q/A purposes. ( Source: Automobile Weekly).
 
I hope in the future they will start making them here again, but since Ford owned the plant in Michigan and they no longer have a relationship, I doubt it will be in Michigan.

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