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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan

#13208 of 13217 Re: No V6 in the '11 Sonata? [dodgeman07] by choppedntubbed Nov 21, 2009 (6:33 am)
Replying to: dodgeman07 (Nov 21, 2009 4:31 am) I think it is time for you to change your name to "hyundaiman07"!
#13209 of 13217 Re: No V6 in the '11 Sonata? [jeffyscott] by elroy5 Nov 21, 2009 (7:30 am)
Replying to: jeffyscott (Nov 21, 2009 6:15 am) Well, will it outsell that Lexus and if so, does that mean it has "displaced" it?   The Lexus and Sonata are not competing for sales. If he meant the Optima will out-sell the Camry, that's even nutiser.
#13210 of 13217 Finally got some time in a '10 Fusion by mz6greyghost Nov 21, 2009 (2:44 pm)
Today, I went to the local auto supercenter (a place with multiple auto dealers in one location) for the Mazda dealer's "official" 2010 introduction party (yes, they've been around for a couple months, but whatever.) After attending the festivities, a friend and I walked the grounds, looking at the other dealers offerings, and found the following:   2010 Mazda 6: Still a top choice for my next vehicle purchase (later this spring), although it's gotten vastly more complicated (more on that later). A vast improvement over my '04 in just about everything. Some don't care for the new styling, but I've grown to really like it. Interior fit-and-finish and quality has also improved, and the controls are still easy to figure out and use. Strangely, there was no V6 model on the lot, so no test-drive today (although I've already had two others over the past year).   2010 Nissan Altima: The front end reskin is okay, but the cutouts for the optional fog lights look even cheaper than the '07-'09 models. The headlamps and grille are tweaked, but there's no other changes. Interiors are the same except for the new cloth seats, which have a similar material to my '07, but the inserts are vastly superior and look more durable.   2010 VW Jetta: It's in need of a update, and it shows against the others I've seen today. I didn't spend too much time looking, because I was actually checking out the...   2010 VW GTI: It may not be an "official" midsize offering, but it's a sharp-looking vehicle all the same. The "plaid" seats are still cool, as they were when the GTI first showed up on these shores. Excellent ergonomics, and the interior (as with all other VW's) has great fit-and-finish and materials.   I then walked over to the Ford dealer, and managed to find the lone 2010 Fusion Sport (Sangria Red with black interior), along with about 5 SELs and 5 SE's. The exterior styling is purely subjective, but I love it. It's as angular as my '04 Mazda6, but it's IMO more modern. The Sport-only side sills and rear bumper are nicely done, and the rear spoiler is subtle but striking. The 5-spoke wheels are nicely done, with "sport" written on the hubs. That, and the badge on the trunklid, have a small red "stripe" on both sides. Subtle, but distinctive.   The interior is a HUGE improvement over the last-gen Fusion, and IMO one of the best in class styling-wise. The gauges have white lettering and markings over a blue background that "glows" from the center of the needles outward, a nice touch and very easy to read quickly. The dash is nicely finished, as well as the steering wheel with fingertip controls. I can see why some are complaining about the HVAC controls being low in the center console, but I could get used to them easily. The more-utilized radio controls are easy to find and use, and the SYNC system is simply excellent.   Then I got behind the wheel for a quick test-drive (about 1/2 hour) on the highway, a couple two-lanes, and through some village streets. Two words: surprising, and excellent. The 3.5L V6 and 6-speed auto gets up and goes, even quicker than my Mazda V6 and stick shift. The power is both smooth and addicting, and the automatic works well with the V6. The manumatic controls should be used by every other automaker (pull back for upshifts, forward for downshifts, none of this side-to-side garbage). The engine is smooth and quiet, but has a nice growl with a tip of the throttle. Highway ride is superb, slightly firm, but not jarring, with excellent steering feel and ride. The interior is actually TOO quiet, 55 MPH on a two-lane backroad seems as if I'm doing 30. Braking is also great, with easy modulation. I'd love to get more time behind the wheel, but I'm impressed.   After all that, the Mazda6 isn't my only choice anymore, and I have a feeling I'll be having a few sleepless nights figuring out whether to stick with Mazda, or go back to a domestic with a truly excellent midsize sport sedan called the Fusion.   More to come...   Disclaimer: the preceding was MHO. Deal with it. Replies to this message: explorerx4 (Nov 21, 2009 4:57 pm) backy (Nov 21, 2009 7:27 pm)
#13211 of 13217 Re: Finally got some time in a '10 Fusion [mz6greyghost] by explorerx4 Nov 21, 2009 (4:57 pm)
Replying to: mz6greyghost (Nov 21, 2009 2:44 pm) after you review of the fusion, as an owner of an '07, i hate you. to me the low in the center stack climate controls are not a big deal. it has automatic climate control, so you may never touch those other buttons, although i never use that function.
#13212 of 13217 Re: Finally got some time in a '10 Fusion [mz6greyghost] by backy Nov 21, 2009 (7:27 pm)
Replying to: mz6greyghost (Nov 21, 2009 2:44 pm) Thanks for the excellent review, especially all the details on the Fusion Sport. It would have been a lot better without the comment at the end.
#13213 of 13217 OK... by iluvmysephia1 Nov 22, 2009 (1:40 am)
Disclaimer: the preceding was MHO. Deal with it.   The statement above is gonna need an explanation for this padre or I not only won't get your post but I also won't get backy's response back to your post either, mz6greyghost. Replies to this message: mickeyrom (Nov 22, 2009 7:02 am) akirby (Nov 22, 2009 8:44 am)
#13214 of 13217 Re: OK... [iluvmysephia1] by mickeyrom Nov 22, 2009 (7:02 am)
Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Nov 22, 2009 1:40 am) Huh??????
#13215 of 13217 Re: OK... [iluvmysephia1] by akirby Nov 22, 2009 (8:44 am)
Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Nov 22, 2009 1:40 am) MHO - My Humble Opinion.
#13216 of 13217 mz6gray by cannon3 Nov 22, 2009 (11:04 am)
As a proud owner of an 06 Fusion SEL V6... I hate you too! Makes me want to run down and buy the 2010 right now. But the wife is up next for a new vehicle. With the kids being older, 1 having their own car I no longer need this large of a vehicle. I am patiently waiting for the 2011 Focus . I have to say, this 06 is a great vehicle.
#13217 of 13217 Thanks akirby... by iluvmysephia1 Nov 22, 2009 (5:39 pm)
I had a feeling it wasn't gonna be deep-I just had to ask.

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