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Time out
by pat HOST
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Oct 25, 2009 (6:04 am)
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Some posts have been removed. Name-calling, derisive sarcasm and personal attacks aren't doing anything to further this conversation. Let's leave those things out in future posts, please.
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- #375 of 414
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FYI
by espo35
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Oct 25, 2009 (7:59 am)
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For those of you who think Hyundai knows about this "problem" and doesn't want to fix it, this is a list of Technical Service Bulletins on the '09 Sonata suspenson, taken TODAY from their intranet dealer tech-site:
SS - Suspension System (20)
09-SS-008 STEERING GEAR BOX NOISE REPAIR 08-SS-010 TPMS (TIRE PRESSURE MONITORING SYSTEM) SENSOR MODE SETTING 08-SS-008 ALIGNMENT SPECIFICATIONS - 2009 MY PASSENGER VEHICLES 08-SS-005 CAUTIONS DURING TPMS (TIRE PRESSURE MONITORING SYSTEM) WHEEL SENSOR S 08-SS-004 DIAGNOSIS AND CORRECTION OF VEHICLE PULL 08-SS-003 TIRE AND WHEEL VIBRATION AND RADIAL FORCE VARIATION 08-SS-002-1 TPMS (TIRE PRESSURE MONITORING SYSTEM) TIRE PRESSURE WARNING LAMP " 07-50-004 TPMS (TIRE PRESSURE MONITORING SYSTEM) WARNING LAMP - ELECTROMAGNETIC 07-50-001 TPMS (TIRE PRESSURE MONITORING SYSTEM) TIRE PRESSURE WARNING LAMP "ON" 06-50-013 TIRE AND WHEEL VIBRATION AND RADIAL FORCE VARIATION 06-50-010-1 TIRE INFLATION PRESSURE - PDI INSPECTION 06-50-010 TIRE INFLATION PRESSURE - PDI INSPECTION 05-50-012 DIAGNOSIS AND CORRECTION OF VEHICLE PULL 04-50-005 WHEEL LUG NUT TORQUE - SERVICE TIP 03-50-003 Wheel Lug Nut Torque - Service Tip 03-50-002 Wheel Alignment Specifications 02-50-005 Alignment Specifications 02-50-004 Tire Company Assistance 01-50-008 Tire and Wheel Vibration and Radial Force Variation 08-SS-002 TPMS LAMP "ON" AT COLD - Revised See 08-SS-002-1 ST - Steering System (2)
08-ST-001 SERVICE TIP - POWER STEERING OIL PUMP WHINE NOISE 07-50-002 PSF-4, HYUNDAI GENUINE POWER STEERING FLUID
If you'd like to see the text of any of these, let me know.
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- #376 of 414
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Re: FYI [espo35]
by kaypea
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Oct 25, 2009 (11:26 am)
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Replying to: espo35 (Oct 25, 2009 7:59 am)
Its nice of you to post all that but,as you obviously realize there's nothing mentioned about struts.This thread is what-17 pages long and if you read all of it(except the posts that go off topic) almost all of the talk is about that.The person who started this thread spent an amazing amount of time and effort on looking into struts,mounts,etc. and even he has come up with nothing that is conclusive for a fix.He had his struts replaced and says it was about 80 % effective in reducing noise but thinks its coming back.Someone else posted that he had his replaced and it did nothing yet someone posted recently that he did have success with struts replaced by Hyundai.There are also reports on another forum of people having success with aftermarket struts. From what I understand there was a TSB issued for 2006-07 Sonata for rear strut replacement.Which makes it hard to understand for people who have 2009s and are still having the same problems why there isn't one for 2009s.. At this point I'm just trying to figure out what my next step is.
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Re: FYI [kaypea]
by espo35
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Oct 25, 2009 (2:40 pm)
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Replying to: kaypea (Oct 25, 2009 11:26 am)
There may well be an issue with some '09's that I have not had yet. It could also well be that Hyundai is aware of an issue. TSB's take awhile to be issued. Once a problem is recognized, corrective procedures need to be put in place, parts made available and so on. It could take months.....if there is, indeed a "fix" in the works.
I would nicely ask again to drive with a tech. If he hears the noise and says it's normal, ask to drive with him in a like model off their lot.
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Re: FYI [kaypea]
by targettuning
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Oct 26, 2009 (6:56 am)
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Replying to: kaypea (Oct 25, 2009 11:26 am)
As you note there are as many "fixes" or "non-fixes" on this so-called strut issue as there are people reporting the noise in the first place. I have always contended that the severity of the issue is dependent on owner sensitivity to what may indeed be a normal "thump" that most vehicles would produce over a particular pothole bump or road imperfection. It may be that driver "A" upon hitting such a hole won't even notice something amiss but attribute any noise to the mechanical action of the suspension as it absorbs a wheel drop of 4-5-6 or more inches into a void (pothole) whereas driver "B" hitting a similar hole simply cannot understand why the car makes any noise at all. This may be simplistic but may be a reason why many report no unusual noises and some are driven insane about ......" THE NOISE" !!!!! I will tell you that I have driven many new rental vehicles over the last couple of years from a lot of manufacturers including Hyundai (Sonata, Elantra) Nissan (Versa, Altima) Ford (Fusion, Focus) Toyota (Yaris, Camry) Honda (Accord) Chevrolet (new 2010 Impala this past week-end, Malibu ) Kia (Optima) Pontiac (G-6) and probably others and none....none were silent over bad roads. They all made what I considered acceptible mechanical noises from the hard working suspension on poor secondary or inner city roads. Maybe with my being a "car guy" I am not that overexpectant about the near absence of noise from suspension parts working hard to smooth out the cratered, bombed out roads found nearly everywhere these days.
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Re: FYI [targettuning]
by kaypea
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Oct 26, 2009 (1:19 pm)
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Replying to: targettuning (Oct 26, 2009 6:56 am)
You make some good points but you don't own one of these cars and you didn't just plunk down some money for one.I would say that,in general my car's suspension is maybe louder that usual.That,in itself is not a problem.What I hear when going over different kinds of holes-especially at slow to moderate speeds where there is less road noise is another matter.Someone described it as sounding like tennis balls bouncing around in a box and its definitely not normal or like any other car I've driven. The other day I had to drive for about a mile over a dirt road.If you or anyone else,especially a service technician were in the car with me and heard what I heard and tried to say that what you heard was acceptable or like Honda,Ford or anything else it would stretch the imagination even if you didn't look at the odometer and see that there were 2800 miles on the car. Peoples's tolerances and sensitivity may vary but its seems very difficult to believe that every Sonata is the same when it comes to suspensions given that some never hear anything like what i described.
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Re: FYI [kaypea]
by targettuning
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Oct 27, 2009 (8:26 am)
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Replying to: kaypea (Oct 26, 2009 1:19 pm)
Yes, you are correct I do not currently own a Hyundai product (how you assumed that I don't know but nice guess) although in total our family has owned 4 (two Santa Fe's for me, an Elantra for my son and our daughter still owns her 2003 Elantra GT). In fact I intend to purchase a new redesigned 2011 Sonata but all that aside I am only trying to present a possible explaination why the majority of 2006-09 Sonata owners do not hear, or complain that they hear, anything abnormal. I would also have to subscribe to the idea that all Sonata are likely built equally well. The only deviance to that would be if an outside supplier/sub-contractor delivered a run of sub-standard or out of spec. parts (this has happened for several model years with Honda Civic shocks subject to early leakage). But how you could extrapolate what noise (type, or severity) a Ford/Honda/Nissan or anything else might or might not make over a given pothole as you drive over that hole in your Sonata is well beyond me. I still contend that the majority of complaints is attributable to consumer sensitivity and maybe fueled in part by posts here. After all there are those who after reading about all these suspension noises are influenced to hear something that didn't exist previously. An automotive hypochondriac so to speak. Finally, I don't absolutely positively say there is no noise...period, only that there may be more sensitivity to any noise now that this has become an issue.
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Re: FYI [targettuning]
by gslav1
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Oct 27, 2009 (10:41 am)
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Replying to: targettuning (Oct 26, 2009 6:56 am)
Hello The problem is not just noise from the struts, its ride quality and handling .Believe me if you had this problem you would immediately notice it !!
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