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#177 of 211 Re: Oil consumption Testing now going on [samb5]
Feb 08, 2011 (5:08 am)
I have the same 2004 Pacifica and have 160k miles on it. It has been consuming oil it seems like forever. Due to a slow oil leak, I am being told that the oil pan needs to be replaced and I am not sure I want to spend the $ to fix it. Currently, the gas needle is bouncing up and down. Someone told me that that a bigger drain plug may stop the slow leak.
#178 of 211 Re: Oil Consumption [dondevers]
Apr 27, 2011 (10:03 am)
I've had my 2004 since 2005 originally with about 25,000k. Actually it was for my wife and we've had very very little problems out of it. We now have over 120,000miles on it.
Recently I began to drive it (sold my car-down to one family vehicle now) and noticed the massive amount of oil consumption, from 1 to 2 quarts every 3000miles.
I never noticed it before, but that is because I/we never opened the hood, always took it to get serviced like clockwork over the years at the GM Dealer. Now post recession, and income totally different, began to check these things out myself.
It is possible car was always consuming oil for years, but we never noticed because we never looked under the hood.
Now we are at over 120,000miles and still going strong.
From the looks of these posts, oil consumption in excess compared to other vehicles is normal. Just keep it at the normal level by adding a quart.
#179 of 211 Re: Oil Consumption [atlantarider]
Apr 27, 2011 (11:59 am)
It's a little more complicated than that...
You need to understand what's really going on here. I sold out of my Pacifica for this reason.
The combustion chamber is burning oil at an accelerated rate and amount compared to the default industry standard today. Everything is made to more exacting tolerance than years past, so the tolerance for excess carbon going through the combustion chamber and into the catalytic converter is a set amount well below what you are now producing. There is a disparity between the engineered values and the actual ones we experience. If Chrysler exposed itself to what is really going on here, it would potentially add up to many hundreds of millions of dollars. Mercedes co-developed this car and engine and they experienced the same types of excess oil consumption and have also had to account for this to owners, who are not as easily shunted aside.
Eventually, you are going to plug up the catalytic converter with carbon, at the very least, if not have other powertrain wear issues. Plan to sell off this vehicle before it is a steaming pile of junk... I have told you so!
The amounts of maintenance that will begin to be apparent even if you do keep the oil level up is dramatically higher for this situation than another engine which is tighter and uses less than a quart per oil change (3500-5000 on dino oil/6000-7500 on synthetic).
You simply do not have the money to fix what is ailing this series of motors. Chrysler is not admitting to their complicity and therefore not crafting a proper solution. Getting a ring job done may not be the end of the problem!
I now drive a Kia Sorento (w/a 3.5 V6!) made in Georgia!
#181 of 211 Oil consumption
May 06, 2011 (10:42 am)
It was very reassuring; as sad as they that may sound; that I was not alone with this issue. I took our 2007 Pacifica in 2 days ago because of smoke billowing from the exhaust pipes. The car had been driving perfectly fine the previous day. There were no warning signs whatsoever that anything was out of the ordinary, no engine lights, nothing. We regularly have the car maintenenced and actually just had the oil changed last month. Yet when I got the car to the dealership, the oil was very low and they called me to let me know that "somehow" oil was getting into the combustion chamber and burning the oil which was causing the smoke to billow from the exhaust pipes. They informed me that the engine would need taken apart piece by piece to pinpoint the exact problem, worse case scenario being the engine needing replaced which would cost me around $5,000. OUch. The car only has 45,000 miles on it and they are wanting me to pay for all of this and want to replace my engine with one that has 51,000 on it. What???? My dealer recomended that I contact Chrysler to see if they could help out with the issue at all seeings how we are Just outside the manufacturer's warranty. Thus far Chrysler is giving me the run-around and the case manager assigned to me seems to be avoiding me. This is our 3rd Chrysler and needless to say, there will be no more for us!!!
#182 of 211 Re: Oil consumption [madmama30]
May 16, 2011 (7:54 am)
I own a 2006 Pacifica touring with the oil issues being described. I have 88,000 miles on it now and I am about a quart down every 1000 miles and getting worse. I've been dealing with this issue on a consistent basis for about a year. Took the car to dealer at the time we noticed and they said it was normal though anyone other than Chrysler said it was not. That said, I got fed up and emailed Bob Kidder, the CEO, about a month and a half ago asking for help and stating my issue. I didn't have much expectation but felt the need to be heard. 3 weeks go by and no response so I emailed a follow up and sure enough responses were happening. I got a call from a top care specialist at headquarters in Detroit, who said an engineer will come and look at the issue. That said, a day goes by and a district manager offers me 20 free oil changes, in which I balked at that fix and quite frankly was insulted. That prompted me to email Mr Kidder back with this blog link and call the contact at headquarters to voice my frustration. It was then, things got real interesting. I get a call the next day from the same district manager that offered the oil change stating they now want to look at the car and will do so with a Chrysler engineer. That same day, the top care specialist called me to state the same and that they have had numerous conference calls and meetings on this to determine how they wanted to handle my issue. I thought that whatever I have said clearly has stirred the pot as she stated a lot of eyes up in Detroit are on my issue.
That said, the car was brought in and a series of tests were completed on the car with the said engineer and the service folks. They said the results of the tests were normal but they gave me an oil change, marked the dipstick, and sealed the oil cap and said come back in 1,000 miles.
Today was that 1,000 miles and they show me being down a half quart. The service people said they have called Detroit asking for next steps and are awaiting a response. Until then, they said I could pick up the car today though they went through the process of getting us a rental. Seems weird and none of the service people would comment on the results.
I know many people have the same issues I'm experiencing and I would hope you would keep an eye on my developments as I have caused quite a stir up North. Depending on the outcome, there may be a need to look into a class action opportunity as consumers of this car, it is not right to have to turn in a car with a major defect that the company is unwilling to address. BTW, I'm located in Columbus, Ohio and have been taking the car to Byers Chrysler.
#183 of 211 Re: No warning light, problem is oil [jtg61]
May 26, 2011 (7:46 pm)
I have a 2008 Nitro R/T with a 4.0L engine. It consumes 1.5 to 2 litres of oil every 5000km. Dodge has us completing an oil consumption report but claims this is normal. Normal from 45,000km on? I have never had this issue with any of my previous vehicles. Anyone else?
#184 of 211 Re: Oil plug stripped oil pan [pdmendez]
May 31, 2011 (4:17 pm)
I have the same issues. First I was told the people who did my previous oil change did not put oil in it. Shortly after I was told I needed a new oil pan b/c the screws were stripped. Thank god Hogan Tire in Woburn, MA was willing to solder a new screw hole and patch up the bad one otherwise I would have been out $800 too! The oil light has never gone out for me. I did hear that "click click" noise of despair. Now I check it pretty frequently, always finding it low.
#185 of 211 Re: Oil consumption [jeffro2333]
Jun 01, 2011 (12:42 am)
I live in wisconsin and own a 2004 pacifica. I actualy havent been able to drive my car since the middle of february. I had the oil pump go out on me, and there are no 2004 pacifica oil pumps in the usa or canida. I caled chrysler and talked to some one who just put me on a waitting list for the part. I called back to check on how its looking a week ago and as far as I can tell is that chrysler has no plans on making a replacement part for the 2004 pacifica. They even told me streight out that there is NO start production date set on the oil pumps, but they will get ahold of me if they find a used one. I also tryed to talk to several lawers and no one seems to want to go up against chrysler, they all told me to wait because there is nothing that can be done. Im getting pissed now that Im still making payments on a car that I havent driven in 5 months paying insurance on a car that doesnt move and paying $100.00 a week to use a friends car who wants it back very soon, so I will probly loose my job as well.
#186 of 211 Re: Oil consumption [jeffro2333]
Jun 12, 2011 (9:58 pm)
I have a 2007 model Pacifica, manufactured in 11/06. Currently at apprx 50,000 miles it has been consuming 1 quart of oil about every 800 miles. The auto dealer has performed checks every thousand miles for 3000 miles and has performed an oil consumption test the last several months. The oil consumption test indicates that the vehicle is consuming 1 quart of oil every 1000 miles. Chrysler has responded that the manufacturer specification indicate that 1 quart every 1000 miles is acceptable. The dealership says their outside shop is going to try to find the source of the problem.