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Don't use the Dash readout
by 98ddgram1500
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Dec 26, 2007 (11:31 am)
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First off the dash readout isn't 100%, the only real way to get your MPG is to take your trip mileage and divide it by the amount of gas used.
2005 Touring, AWD highway I get 18.5. there is a small portion of stop and go (bumper to bumper).
Its a decent car, good in snow, bad on gas. Front end is getting clunky, lets hope its not a ball joint.
Also is due for a tune up, and a timing belt. (80K miles). Just put on new tires by cooper, WOW much better than the junk stock tires.
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- #26 of 64
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Re: Don't use the Dash readout [98ddgram1500]
by farout
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Dec 26, 2007 (4:57 pm)
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Replying to: 98ddgram1500 (Dec 26, 2007 11:31 am)
You might not know that the 07 has a 4.l engine and a 6 speed automatic, which makes better fuel mileage. I do not go by the computer, I use actual gallons used into the miles at the last fill up until now, However the computer is not very far off, compared to other Jeep Vehicles I have owned.
farout
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- #27 of 64
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Re: Don't use the Dash readout [farout]
by waterdr
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Dec 26, 2007 (7:33 pm)
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Replying to: farout (Dec 26, 2007 4:57 pm)
I have found the computer to be nearly spot on, but I have not had the car long. My Saab's computer reads consistently 5% high.
Most of these devices work by "calculating" the fuel consumption rather then measuring it. I don't know how the Pac works. On most cars the computer calculates fuel consumption by looking at fuuel injector pulse widths. Assuming the car has an accurate O2 sensor (which narror-band units are not the best), you can get a pretty close approximation.
The 6 speed helps a bunch on the newer ones I would imagine.
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- #28 of 64
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Re: Don't use the Dash readout [98ddgram1500]
by nuruc7
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Jan 01, 2008 (6:22 pm)
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Replying to: 98ddgram1500 (Dec 26, 2007 11:31 am)
I just traded my 05 touring in on an 07 base AWD with the 4.0 L engine. I had 89500 on my 05, ,perfect car, no trouble with that car (it was slow though) and it stayed at 19 - 20 mpg on the highway (measured by noting the amount of gas to fill up after trips). I got a good deal on this newer car so I am also hoping that the improvements on the 07 are as good as they say as far as mileage (24 highway). One thing I would like to ask is in my 05 touring the EVIC, gave me a some estimates on fuel economy and distance to empty. This new car's EVIC does not provide the same info, it just tells me is there is an issue or it tells me the service interval - is there anyway to, simple to upgrade or fix this issue?
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- #29 of 64
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Re: Don't use the Dash readout [nuruc7]
by waterdr
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Jan 01, 2008 (6:47 pm)
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Replying to: nuruc7 (Jan 01, 2008 6:22 pm)
I have a 2007 Limited AWD. The EVIC on my car provides the same info that you claimed your 05 did. I wonder if you have an issue or if it is just setup incorrectly.
Glad to see a PAC owner returning again for a new one.
How do you like the new motor and the 6 speed? Do you have a FWD or an AWD?
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Re: Pressure [qbrozen]
by waterdr
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Jan 01, 2008 (6:55 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Dec 21, 2007 7:45 am)
Sorry to respond so slow....you are correct, but the pressure does not change by that much. I see an increase of about 2 to 3 lbs from cold to sustained highway speeds, but I also suppose it depends on ambient temps as well. I fully intend to pull a few lbs out in the summer.
On my Mustang I routinely run my pressure in the rear tires at about 26 psi as I need all I can to get traction. When drag racing, I drop it to 18 lbs and pump the fronts up to about 42.
The lower the pressure, the larger the footprint.
Lower pressure equals softter ride and better traction. Higher pressure equals firmer ride and better fuel economy. You just need to choose your battle and decide what you want.
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- #31 of 64
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Re: Don't use the Dash readout [waterdr]
by nuruc7
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Jan 02, 2008 (5:13 am)
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Replying to: waterdr (Jan 01, 2008 6:47 pm)
Oh the new motor and transmission combination is quite strong. It does get there faster, a lot faster than the 05 touring I traded, and once it is there then is rides comfortably at 2k rpms at the same speeds or greater that the 05 would be running at 3k or better. So it looks like I will be saving a bunch on gas. I am pretty sure that car is not set-up correctly for EVIC. However it is telling me that 3 tires are under inflated and I am gonna review the manual to see if certain faults lock the reporting up until it is cleared/or the problem is corrected. Also I see in the manual that the cars come with the base speedo cluster and the Premium speedo cluster, and mine is a base model with AWD and the 4.0L, and it has the Premium speedo cluster and EVIC controls, so the EVIC is there but appears to be not working correctly. Hopefully there is no difference between the base, touring and Limited as far as the standard EVIC is concerned if it is installed. I know different options would not be present.
I will let you all know what is happening later after the dealer gets back to me. Yes I could not pass up the deal they were giving me to get me oput of my upside down 05 car with 89k on it. However the car did run great, no issues, and was a touring with full leather and most of the amenities. I will probably do this one like I did the last one and put in some add-ons. I added satellite and the DVD player and drop down scrren. This one comes with Sirius satellite so I am set there. Still debating on upgrading the seat upholstery to the comfortable leather. Don't have sunroof, but could get that installed - probably won't as, i really did not use it at all. I kinda opened the moon roof shade, but ended up not even using that. This has more headroom so I am fine. 
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Re: Don't use the Dash readout [nuruc7]
by nuruc7
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Jan 04, 2008 (5:39 pm)
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Replying to: nuruc7 (Jan 02, 2008 5:13 am)
Got the tires inflated to 35 each and the alarm cleared - EVIC still does not provide trip mileage or compasss readngs like the 05. I am still trying to find out what I can upgrade to on ths car - I checked up in the overhead console and there was no additional cable for the AutoDimming Uconnect Mirro like there is on the 05. I called Chrysler Customer Service and they could not tell me what the car could hae as options. They indicated that it did not list even UConnect as an option. They told me they could not tell if it was pre-wired or not, even though it has the Satellite/Cellular antenna installed 
The Options I really want for this car are:
Automatice Temperature Control
Uconnect
Multiswitch with both fog and Automatic headlights
DRLs activated
I also looked up what a 2007 Service Manual on CD would cost and it was $120, up 30 bucks from 2005.
Dunno if i want to spend that much on a car with a lifetime wraparound warranty 
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Re: Mileage Miser
by miser1
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Feb 20, 2008 (4:40 am)
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Replying to: waterdr (Dec 20, 2007 8:21 pm)
Just purchased 2007 fwd Pac has 41000 km using regular gas posted just under 25 mpg if didnt have to stop for shopping would have exceeded 25mph. Will continue to monitor and post when results are in. Average speed probably 60-65 mph using cruise control. Very comfortable ride at that speed.
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Re: Mileage Miser [miser1]
by nuruc7
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Feb 20, 2008 (3:31 pm)
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Replying to: miser1 (Feb 20, 2008 4:40 am)
My mpg was averaging ~ 20, then all of a sudden it jumped by quite a bit. i used to go 4 days and then have to fill up again as I did with my 2005 Pac Touring, now with this 2007 AWD base, I can go 5 days and then fillup. I believe it has jumped up to about 23mpg - 19 gallons each fillup, and over 400 miles traveled
i have about 2500 miles on it now
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