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#47 of 56 Re: Mazda 3 Handling in the rain [pf_flyer]
Nov 20, 2008 (7:35 am)
I agree. I don't believe I've ever replaced the OEM tires with the same things. Always upgraded. Not necessarily to a higher price tire, but I've always found something more highly regarded for approximately the same money. Having said that, I've never had OEM tires so awful that I felt compelled to upgrade before they were worn out. I don't get a ton of rain or ice here in north Texas, but I've yet to notice any sort of poor handling of the OEM tires on my 2008 Mazda3i Touring. Perhaps with these 16" wheels, the OEM tires are less performance-oriented and better in the rain than the 17's that come on the S? Or maybe it's just because I drive like my dad in poor weather ever since I had kids of my own...
#48 of 56 Re: Mazda 3 Handling in the rain [ahightower]
by pf_flyer HOST
Nov 20, 2008 (7:57 am)
I'm thinking that it's advances in tire technology. Prior to the mid-80's I pretty much always replaced original tires with the same brand as I wasn't disappointed in their performance.
First time I went away from that was in the early 90's and I was amazed how much more tread life I got with a different brand. So my attention turned to "saving money" by getting better wearing and performing tires and not having to change them as often.
I've been running Kelly tires on my cars for years now, and just got 59,000+ out of a set of Navigator Golds on my one vehicle. The Continentals that came on my newest vehicle were horrible in the rain right from the outset (again, compared to what I had become accustomed to with the Kellys) and the day they were completely shot at just under 30,000 miles was a day I looked forward to. On the recommendation of a buddy who owns a tire shop and garage I'm trying Cooper CS4's this time around. About 10,000 miles into the set and I'm very happy with them.
#49 of 56 Re: Mazda 3 Handling in the rain [ahightower]
Nov 20, 2008 (9:38 am)
I don't know about the 2008 models, but my 2009 Mazda3 i Touring came with Goodyear Eagle RS-A 205/50 R17 tires, and no matter where you look, TireRack.com, other Mazda3 forums, DiscountTire.com, you name it, most folks think they're junk, especially on wet and snowy road surfaces. No thanks.
Like many other folks, I usually run through the OEM tires before upgrading to newer/better rubber, however, with winter looming, the RS-As will be history by Tuesday.
Nov 20, 2008 (4:53 pm)
trose - The 07 Touring Htchbk that I just traded for my new 09 Mazdaspeed3, had
those same Goodyears on it and I upgraded to Kuhmos Ecsta Asx's after
2000 miles - great price(Tirerack.com),great handling,no hydroplaning
not for deep snow, as the 3 sits low and uses a 50 series tire. If you're
really worried about snow and ice you might have to go to a 2nd set of
dedicated snow tires as I'm doing with the 'speed3(Michelin x ice).
I can't say enough for the Kumho's though, have had them on 2 different
cars and although they're not a name brand icon - they're a real bargain
and about half the price of the Goodyears and were very good in rain and
#51 of 56 Re: Mazda 3 Handling in the rain [shipo]
Nov 20, 2008 (6:15 pm)
2008 i Touring (value) built after Jan 2008 came with 17's. I'm actually glad I got mine before then with the 16's. Comparing OEM 16" to OEM 17", they have longer tread life, and are cheaper to replace as well. I like the leather steering wheel and shift knob and fog lights on the value package (and that new copper red color is hot) but I'm very happy with mine and the deal I got.
#52 of 56 Re: Mazda 3 Handling in the rain [ahightower]
Nov 20, 2008 (7:03 pm)
Yeah, one of my "issues" with my new car is the 17" wheels, I mean, really, is this a $35,000 BMW we're talking about here? No, it's an economy car that is sportier than most others in this class, and for that, 16" wheels would have been quite appropriate, especially as I live in New Hamster and have lots of snow and frost heaves to deal with every winter.
With that said, I was not all that shot with the aftermarket 16" wheels I looked at, and even if I had found a set I liked; the available tire sizes that won't cause speedometer error in the 16" world are precious few and far between. The other option is to stay in the 17" world by going to a 17x7.5 wheel and then moving to a 225/45 R17, however, with TPMS sensors we're taking $1,800 for the set. Said another way, more than 10% of the value of the car just for the wheels and tires.
As you already know, I opted for "Plan-B" instead, and bought a set of Michelin Pilot Sport A/S tires in the factory size. That should last me a year or two before I'm faced with this decision.
#53 of 56 Re: Mazda 3 Handling in the rain [shipo]
Nov 20, 2008 (8:47 pm)
does your pause/play button work on CD's? Mine does not. I called my dealer bc mine is still under warrenty and they said its only for sat. radio? but im still not sure if i trust them based on the reviews ive heard about the dealerships.
#55 of 56 Re: Mazda 3 Handling in the rain [shipo]
Feb 16, 2009 (10:27 am)
I agree, Goodyear Eagle RS-A tires are crap. I wonder if someone at Goodyear has photos of the Mazda CEO doing something weird with a goat. These tires have been one of the major complaints from Mazda3 purchasers.
I replaced the Goodyears with Michelin Pilot Exalta A/S tires after only about 10K miles, and the Goodyears had so little tread left that I didn't even get anything for them on trade-in. The Michelin's are amazing, especially on wet roads. Since we have four distinct seasons where I live, in winter I drive on Bridgestone Blizzak WS60's, and haven't had even one "scary" moment.
Aug 28, 2009 (1:38 pm)
I have only hydroplaned a few times... it wasn't fun. But it was in very hard rain in roads that are mostly untraveled.