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Well, you can stop guessing... by louiswei
Nov 07, 2007 (3:08 pm)
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at least for the G8 because a loaded V8 GT will cost just $32,895. Here is the pricing sheet:
 

 
I know the G8 is more leaning to the performance side versus the Genesis is emphasizing more on the luxury. However, given that they are both RWD, V6 standard / V8 option and in similar price range, there should be little doubt that these two will be cross shopped by the buyers regularly.
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Re: Well, you can stop guessing... [louiswei] by dborth
Nov 07, 2007 (5:44 pm)
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Replying to: louiswei (Nov 07, 2007 3:08 pm)

re 938: "I know the G8 is more leaning to the performance side versus the Genesis is emphasizing more on the luxury. However, given that they are both RWD, V6 standard / V8 option and in similar price range, there should be little doubt that these two will be cross shopped by the buyers regularly."
 
"Cross shopped", I doubt it.
 
I can't imagine the dweebs in Korea were thinking about competeting with a Pontiac of all things when designing Genesis. Their egos where directed toward Germany/Japan. Trouble is, they can't solve the clunk in the Azera, so how are their rope-a-dope US dealers going to sell an upgraded "lux sedan"?
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Re: Well, you can stop guessing... [dborth] by floridabob1
Nov 08, 2007 (1:42 am)
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Replying to: dborth (Nov 07, 2007 5:44 pm)

RE: 939
You're right in the fact that Hyundai is not thinking about the Pontiac buyer as their competition with the Genesis.
They are definitely looking for the buyers of the German and Japanese models.
You are also correct with your comment about their need to deal with problems in a better and more timely manner.
They are doing a poor job in dealer improvement at all levels, facilities, sales and service.
I am sure that there are some good dealers out there, but they appear to be few and far between.
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Re: # 928 & # 929 [floridabob1] by qbrozen
Nov 08, 2007 (7:05 am)
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Replying to: floridabob1 (Nov 07, 2007 2:59 pm)

oi vey!
 
Once again, for the third or fourth time, I am not guessing as to pricing. The original poster this stemmed from (dborth) was claiming that 340hp would be a deal killer for him. I am merely trying to ascertain why that would be the case when, in fact, we don't know any other details or how that will come out in the real world in terms of performance or pricing. I am asking that poster IF. In other words, all I am saying is why make a decision that a lousy few hp kills a car when it MAY perform just as well or MAY be less expensive or MAY ... fill in the blank. Try reading all the posts in order and this may make more sense to you.
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Re: # 928 & # 929 [qbrozen] by dborth
Nov 08, 2007 (7:23 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 08, 2007 7:05 am)

re 941. Read my post again gbozen. I said 340 is old news, chasing the well positioned hemi's. I never said a thing about performance. Performance from Hyundai is a given now.
 
From a marketing standpoint, RWD-V8 is huge for Hyundai. 4-door sedan V8's from Japan & Germany are so far superior to those produced by the big 3 US it is safe to assume Hyundai's will follow suit.
 
To put it another way, the rumored 380hp will drive more people in to see Genesis that won't bother if product launch HP is another me-too, same as Chrysler and less than Pontiac
 
Marketing 101 is bigger, faster, more, better. If you can get all that at a value price with the backing and confidence of a leading warranty.....bingo.
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Re: # 928 & # 929 [dborth] by qbrozen
Nov 08, 2007 (8:14 am)
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Replying to: dborth (Nov 08, 2007 7:23 am)

and, as I said, basing opinion on a number like HP is silly. If that is what floats your boat, I suggest looking at a Freightliner.
 
And you only need to look at other competitions to know the score. Infiniti offers more HP than BMW, yet it doesn't keep folks out of the bimmer showroom. That's just one example. There are many.
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Genesis Coupe? by louiswei
Nov 08, 2007 (8:44 am)
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Source: Inside Line
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Re: # 928 & # 929 [qbrozen] by dborth
Nov 08, 2007 (9:07 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 08, 2007 8:14 am)

re 954. I was actually thinking about investing some of my time to respond to your response. Then I decided, why bother?
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Re: Genesis Coupe? [louiswei] by joe97
Nov 08, 2007 (11:00 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (Nov 08, 2007 8:44 am)

Threads here:
 
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX/.ef78133/116!make=Hyundai&model=All&ed_mak- eindex=.ef78133
 
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX/.f13336f/25!make=Hyundai&model=All&ed_make- index=.f13336f
 
On that note, Mods, please merged the above two links - both are discussions about the RWD coupe.
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Re: # 928 & # 929 [dborth] by qbrozen
Nov 09, 2007 (5:57 am)
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Replying to: dborth (Nov 08, 2007 9:07 am)

Then I decided, why bother?
 
up until then, i thought the reason might be "to have an intelligent debate."
 
i truly am curious why some people feel the need to hang their hats on certain numbers that may not translate into real-world differences. Unfortunately, it seems I will never find out as it always seems to degrade into your comment above.

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