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Replying to: dborth (Nov 07, 2007 7:24 am) OBVIOUSLY, if the car comes to the table costing just as much with less performance, than it will fail. So I don't need to ask that question.
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 07, 2007 7:33 am) If you are just throwing out numbers, you could use 30 K for a loaded V8 Genesis. In my opinion, it doesn't make sense to just guess at a price. I believe that a loaded V8 will cost much more than 32K
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Replying to: floridabob1 (Nov 07, 2007 11:40 am) ??? I just don't see how it changes my question. Again, like I said, if it is CHEAPER than comparably equipped competitors, yet is a bit slower, what is the problem? I don't need to ask, "hey, what if it costs the same and offers less performance?" because I know the answer to that question. Ok, tell ya what, I'll edit the question as follows for those impaired by theoreticals: Would the Genesis really be such a dog if it had 30 less horsepower and could run to 60 in 2 tenths of a second slower than a competitor you are considering, yet, comparably equipped to that competitor, cost $4k less? How about $3k less? What about $2k?
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 07, 2007 11:58 am)
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at least for the G8 because a loaded V8 GT will cost just $32,895. Here is the pricing sheet:  I know the G8 is more leaning to the performance side versus the Genesis is emphasizing more on the luxury. However, given that they are both RWD, V6 standard / V8 option and in similar price range, there should be little doubt that these two will be cross shopped by the buyers regularly.
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Replying to: louiswei (Nov 07, 2007 3:08 pm) "Cross shopped", I doubt it. I can't imagine the dweebs in Korea were thinking about competeting with a Pontiac of all things when designing Genesis. Their egos where directed toward Germany/Japan. Trouble is, they can't solve the clunk in the Azera, so how are their rope-a-dope US dealers going to sell an upgraded "lux sedan"?
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Replying to: dborth (Nov 07, 2007 5:44 pm) You're right in the fact that Hyundai is not thinking about the Pontiac buyer as their competition with the Genesis. They are definitely looking for the buyers of the German and Japanese models. You are also correct with your comment about their need to deal with problems in a better and more timely manner. They are doing a poor job in dealer improvement at all levels, facilities, sales and service. I am sure that there are some good dealers out there, but they appear to be few and far between. |
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Replying to: floridabob1 (Nov 07, 2007 2:59 pm) Once again, for the third or fourth time, I am not guessing as to pricing. The original poster this stemmed from (dborth) was claiming that 340hp would be a deal killer for him. I am merely trying to ascertain why that would be the case when, in fact, we don't know any other details or how that will come out in the real world in terms of performance or pricing. I am asking that poster IF. In other words, all I am saying is why make a decision that a lousy few hp kills a car when it MAY perform just as well or MAY be less expensive or MAY ... fill in the blank. Try reading all the posts in order and this may make more sense to you.
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 08, 2007 7:05 am) From a marketing standpoint, RWD-V8 is huge for Hyundai. 4-door sedan V8's from Japan & Germany are so far superior to those produced by the big 3 US it is safe to assume Hyundai's will follow suit. To put it another way, the rumored 380hp will drive more people in to see Genesis that won't bother if product launch HP is another me-too, same as Chrysler and less than Pontiac Marketing 101 is bigger, faster, more, better. If you can get all that at a value price with the backing and confidence of a leading warranty.....bingo.
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Replying to: dborth (Nov 08, 2007 7:23 am) And you only need to look at other competitions to know the score. Infiniti offers more HP than BMW, yet it doesn't keep folks out of the bimmer showroom. That's just one example. There are many.
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