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Re: To recap... [dborth] by qbrozen
Nov 06, 2007 (12:39 pm)
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Replying to: dborth (Nov 06, 2007 12:24 pm)

why let a state HP number rule your world? It is the end result (eg, performance) that matters.
 
I don't care if a vehicle has 1000 hp if it doesn't perform.
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Re: To recap... [dborth] by snakeweasel
Nov 06, 2007 (5:57 pm)
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Replying to: dborth (Nov 06, 2007 12:24 pm)

I'll take more hp and less "features".
 
Not sure I would agree with you. For one you can have to much HP in a car, secondly as you increase HP every increase of 'X' hp results in a smaller increase of performance over the last 'X' increase. Finally since there is almost always traffic in front of me why have all that HP that I will never use.
 
I will take features with adequate HP.
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# 928 & # 929 by dborth
Nov 07, 2007 (12:20 am)
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For Hyundai to launch a RWD/V8 will position Genesis in an instand comparison with two competitive arenas, the Hemi 300C-Charger/G8 and the German/Japan collections.
 
Hyundai will never "out feature" GerPan at any price but could compete favorably in performance at a significant savings.
 
My original point is that 340hp is old news, and G8 reflects that.
 
There are "features" in my Azera I seldom if ever use, but I'm always inclined to compare product capability.
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Re: # 928 & # 929 [dborth] by qbrozen
Nov 07, 2007 (5:44 am)
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Replying to: dborth (Nov 07, 2007 12:20 am)

Well, let's look at it this way ... let's say, just for the sake of throwing numbers out there, the G8 comes out to $32k for optioned out with 365hp (i think that was the last number i read) and can go 0-60 in 5.6 secs. Would the Genesis really be such a dog if it had 340hp, could run to 60 in 5.8 secs and, comparably equipped to the $32k G8, cost $28k? If you are the type of person who is so bothered by miniscule specs that come down to driver capability, then spend the extra $4k. Personally, I could think of much better ways to spend $4k than for 2 tenths of a second.
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Re: # 928 & # 929 [qbrozen] by joe97
Nov 07, 2007 (5:56 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 07, 2007 5:44 am)

Exactly my sentiments. Plus, the G8 is more of a track car, sport-oriented; while the BH/Genesis focuses on luxury and peformance. The G8 left out a lot of key features to attack the luxury field, which is kind of my earlier point, but looks to be a great car nonetheless.
 
The G8 and the BH each caters to different crowds.
 
Of course we should keep in mind the BH horspeower rating has not been annouced yet so we'll see when we see it
 
So long as the V6 number (300hp) stays true, that will be more than sufficient for most, I'd imagine; the V8 adds an extra kick for sure.
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Re: # 928 & # 929 [qbrozen] by dborth
Nov 07, 2007 (7:24 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 07, 2007 5:44 am)

re: 931 "Would the Genesis really be such a dog if it had 340hp, could run to 60 in 5.8 secs and, comparably equipped to the $32k G8, cost $28k?"
 
Do you really think $28K will buy the V-8? I'd love to have your crystal ball.
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Re: # 928 & # 929 [dborth] by qbrozen
Nov 07, 2007 (7:33 am)
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Replying to: dborth (Nov 07, 2007 7:24 am)

Like I said, I was just throwing numbers out there. I didn't state anything was in stone. I asked a question of you, plain and simple.
 
OBVIOUSLY, if the car comes to the table costing just as much with less performance, than it will fail. So I don't need to ask that question.
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Re: # 928 & # 929 [qbrozen] by floridabob1
Nov 07, 2007 (11:40 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 07, 2007 7:33 am)

RE: 934
If you are just throwing out numbers, you could use 30 K for a loaded V8 Genesis.
In my opinion, it doesn't make sense to just guess at a price.
 I believe that a loaded V8 will cost much more than 32K
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Re: # 928 & # 929 [floridabob1] by qbrozen
Nov 07, 2007 (11:58 am)
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Replying to: floridabob1 (Nov 07, 2007 11:40 am)

I could use $40k.
???
I just don't see how it changes my question.
 
Again, like I said, if it is CHEAPER than comparably equipped competitors, yet is a bit slower, what is the problem?
 
I don't need to ask, "hey, what if it costs the same and offers less performance?" because I know the answer to that question.
 
Ok, tell ya what, I'll edit the question as follows for those impaired by theoreticals:
 
Would the Genesis really be such a dog if it had 30 less horsepower and could run to 60 in 2 tenths of a second slower than a competitor you are considering, yet, comparably equipped to that competitor, cost $4k less?
 
How about $3k less?
 
What about $2k?
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Re: # 928 & # 929 [qbrozen] by floridabob1
Nov 07, 2007 (2:59 pm)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 07, 2007 11:58 am)

Why don't we wait until Hyundai prices the Genesis in the various packages to make the decision if it's a good deal or not.

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