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Re: Genesis - NY TIMES Pics & Article [floridabob1] by joe97
Nov 06, 2007 (11:34 am)
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Replying to: floridabob1 (Nov 06, 2007 7:56 am)

From Hyundai.
 
It will start under 30K for the V6 version; the V8 will probably start in the range of low-to-mid 30s.
 
Marketing talk. Nothing wrong with the article. The car can be had for "well under 30K"
 
By the way to the OP, the article's date is probably right. The article was written when the concept had debuted at the New York International Auto Show April of this year.
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To recap... by joe97
Nov 06, 2007 (11:35 am)
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What do we know so far:
 
V6 - all but confirmed 300hp (the coupe will defn. have 300hp AFAIK).
V8 - rumored anywhere from 340 to 380 horses
 
Lots and lots of features.
 
Anything else missed?
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Re: To recap... [joe97] by dborth
Nov 06, 2007 (12:24 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (Nov 06, 2007 11:35 am)

re 926 "V8 - rumored anywhere from 340 to 380 horses"
 
340hp is a deal killer, to "me too" and chasing Hemi 340's. HP is cheap at the point of manufacturing related to consumer acceptance at product launch.
 
In 2002 Hyundai "mis-stated" HP claims on several models resulting in the loss of a class action suit in the US. I suppose they could always mis-state again, on the high side.
 
I'll take more hp and less "features".
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Re: To recap... [dborth] by qbrozen
Nov 06, 2007 (12:39 pm)
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Replying to: dborth (Nov 06, 2007 12:24 pm)

why let a state HP number rule your world? It is the end result (eg, performance) that matters.
 
I don't care if a vehicle has 1000 hp if it doesn't perform.
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Re: To recap... [dborth] by snakeweasel
Nov 06, 2007 (5:57 pm)
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Replying to: dborth (Nov 06, 2007 12:24 pm)

I'll take more hp and less "features".
 
Not sure I would agree with you. For one you can have to much HP in a car, secondly as you increase HP every increase of 'X' hp results in a smaller increase of performance over the last 'X' increase. Finally since there is almost always traffic in front of me why have all that HP that I will never use.
 
I will take features with adequate HP.
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# 928 & # 929 by dborth
Nov 07, 2007 (12:20 am)
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For Hyundai to launch a RWD/V8 will position Genesis in an instand comparison with two competitive arenas, the Hemi 300C-Charger/G8 and the German/Japan collections.
 
Hyundai will never "out feature" GerPan at any price but could compete favorably in performance at a significant savings.
 
My original point is that 340hp is old news, and G8 reflects that.
 
There are "features" in my Azera I seldom if ever use, but I'm always inclined to compare product capability.
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Re: # 928 & # 929 [dborth] by qbrozen
Nov 07, 2007 (5:44 am)
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Replying to: dborth (Nov 07, 2007 12:20 am)

Well, let's look at it this way ... let's say, just for the sake of throwing numbers out there, the G8 comes out to $32k for optioned out with 365hp (i think that was the last number i read) and can go 0-60 in 5.6 secs. Would the Genesis really be such a dog if it had 340hp, could run to 60 in 5.8 secs and, comparably equipped to the $32k G8, cost $28k? If you are the type of person who is so bothered by miniscule specs that come down to driver capability, then spend the extra $4k. Personally, I could think of much better ways to spend $4k than for 2 tenths of a second.
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Re: # 928 & # 929 [qbrozen] by joe97
Nov 07, 2007 (5:56 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 07, 2007 5:44 am)

Exactly my sentiments. Plus, the G8 is more of a track car, sport-oriented; while the BH/Genesis focuses on luxury and peformance. The G8 left out a lot of key features to attack the luxury field, which is kind of my earlier point, but looks to be a great car nonetheless.
 
The G8 and the BH each caters to different crowds.
 
Of course we should keep in mind the BH horspeower rating has not been annouced yet so we'll see when we see it
 
So long as the V6 number (300hp) stays true, that will be more than sufficient for most, I'd imagine; the V8 adds an extra kick for sure.
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Re: # 928 & # 929 [qbrozen] by dborth
Nov 07, 2007 (7:24 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Nov 07, 2007 5:44 am)

re: 931 "Would the Genesis really be such a dog if it had 340hp, could run to 60 in 5.8 secs and, comparably equipped to the $32k G8, cost $28k?"
 
Do you really think $28K will buy the V-8? I'd love to have your crystal ball.
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Re: # 928 & # 929 [dborth] by qbrozen
Nov 07, 2007 (7:33 am)
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Replying to: dborth (Nov 07, 2007 7:24 am)

Like I said, I was just throwing numbers out there. I didn't state anything was in stone. I asked a question of you, plain and simple.
 
OBVIOUSLY, if the car comes to the table costing just as much with less performance, than it will fail. So I don't need to ask that question.

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