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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Genesis, Hyundai Genesis Coupe, Concept Cars, Future Vehicle, Coupe, Sedan


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Re: TG azera or BHL [rv65] by rv65
Nov 01, 2007 (9:19 pm)
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Replying to: rv65 (Oct 30, 2007 12:13 pm)

That car is the VI. Sorry for the error. The VI will replace the mitsubishi derived Equus.
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VI spyshots by rv65
Nov 05, 2007 (7:04 pm)
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http://www.worldcarfans.com/9071105.008/mystery-hyundai-luxury-prototype-sedan-s- - pied-with-new-genesis
 
Not the BH-L. This is the VI. The VI is an upscale LWB genesis.
 
Some spy pics of the VI and the BH. The older BH. The American BH will probably have the concept genesis like look to it. Maybe they had an older BH mule. It seems that all BH models could get a different grille.
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Genesis - NY TIMES Pics & Article by theblackhole
Nov 06, 2007 (6:12 am)
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Replying to: rv65 (Nov 05, 2007 7:04 pm)

 
 http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/05/automobiles/autoshow/NUGGETHyundaiGenesis.html-
 
  My guess they meant Nov 5 and not April 5...
 
By JERRY GARRETT
Published: April 5, 2007
Introduced on Wednesday: Hyundai Genesis concept
 
Is it real? Though it is technically a design study, Concept Genesis, as Hyundai calls its looks "very much like the production version" that is on the way.
 
What's the point? Hyundai has been flirting with the idea of offering premium models for some time. The Genesis would be the Lexus level of Hyundai's lineup.
 
What they said: "This is not just a concept car," said Steve Wilhite, chief operating officer of Hyundai Motor America. "It's really a fast-forward journey into the future of the Hyundai brand."
 
What they didn't say: The first Lexus LS was a screaming bargain that trumped everything else in the premium segment on price and features. A Lexus is no longer such a bargain, but the Genesis would be a Lexuslike bargain with a wide array of standard features, if Hyundai sticks to the promises made here in terms of performance and price.
 
What makes it tick? Genesis, a rear-wheel-drive sedan, will feature Hyundai's first V-8 engine; horsepower output is promised to be "well over 300."
 
How much, how soon? Second half of 2008, with a promised price "well under $30,000." Well, well.
 
How's it look? Bigger than the Lexus GS, smaller than the LS, the photogenic Genesis in person looks more like the current Toyota Camry from the front, a Nissan Maxima from the side a Buick from behind.
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Re: Genesis - NY TIMES Pics & Article [theblackhole] by floridabob1
Nov 06, 2007 (7:56 am)
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Replying to: theblackhole (Nov 06, 2007 6:12 am)

RE: 923
Don't know where they got the info about the well under 30K.
What I have read indicated a STARTING price under 30K, but fully equipped models ranging to near 40K.
Am I wrong?
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Re: Genesis - NY TIMES Pics & Article [floridabob1] by joe97
Nov 06, 2007 (11:34 am)
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Replying to: floridabob1 (Nov 06, 2007 7:56 am)

From Hyundai.
 
It will start under 30K for the V6 version; the V8 will probably start in the range of low-to-mid 30s.
 
Marketing talk. Nothing wrong with the article. The car can be had for "well under 30K"
 
By the way to the OP, the article's date is probably right. The article was written when the concept had debuted at the New York International Auto Show April of this year.
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To recap... by joe97
Nov 06, 2007 (11:35 am)
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What do we know so far:
 
V6 - all but confirmed 300hp (the coupe will defn. have 300hp AFAIK).
V8 - rumored anywhere from 340 to 380 horses
 
Lots and lots of features.
 
Anything else missed?
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Re: To recap... [joe97] by dborth
Nov 06, 2007 (12:24 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (Nov 06, 2007 11:35 am)

re 926 "V8 - rumored anywhere from 340 to 380 horses"
 
340hp is a deal killer, to "me too" and chasing Hemi 340's. HP is cheap at the point of manufacturing related to consumer acceptance at product launch.
 
In 2002 Hyundai "mis-stated" HP claims on several models resulting in the loss of a class action suit in the US. I suppose they could always mis-state again, on the high side.
 
I'll take more hp and less "features".
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Re: To recap... [dborth] by qbrozen
Nov 06, 2007 (12:39 pm)
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Replying to: dborth (Nov 06, 2007 12:24 pm)

why let a state HP number rule your world? It is the end result (eg, performance) that matters.
 
I don't care if a vehicle has 1000 hp if it doesn't perform.
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Re: To recap... [dborth] by snakeweasel
Nov 06, 2007 (5:57 pm)
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Replying to: dborth (Nov 06, 2007 12:24 pm)

I'll take more hp and less "features".
 
Not sure I would agree with you. For one you can have to much HP in a car, secondly as you increase HP every increase of 'X' hp results in a smaller increase of performance over the last 'X' increase. Finally since there is almost always traffic in front of me why have all that HP that I will never use.
 
I will take features with adequate HP.
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# 928 & # 929 by dborth
Nov 07, 2007 (12:20 am)
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For Hyundai to launch a RWD/V8 will position Genesis in an instand comparison with two competitive arenas, the Hemi 300C-Charger/G8 and the German/Japan collections.
 
Hyundai will never "out feature" GerPan at any price but could compete favorably in performance at a significant savings.
 
My original point is that 340hp is old news, and G8 reflects that.
 
There are "features" in my Azera I seldom if ever use, but I'm always inclined to compare product capability.

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