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Re: I'm confused [rockylee]
by snakeweasel
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Apr 08, 2007 (6:22 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 08, 2007 6:15 am)
My understanding is that they are developing it themselves.
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- #70 of 5696
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Re: I'm confused [joe97]
by snakeweasel
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Apr 08, 2007 (6:23 am)
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Replying to: joe97 (Apr 08, 2007 6:20 am)
If you ask me, diesel > hybrid
I agree, less likelihood of technology failure with the diesel.
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- #71 of 5696
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Re: I'm confused [snakeweasel]
by rockylee
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Apr 08, 2007 (6:26 am)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Apr 08, 2007 6:23 am)
I'm down with diesel, as long as they can promise me some gas engine beating power. Right now Audi, has one of the best diesel's made it's 4.2 V8 Turbo Diesel. Something like that is what I could live with. Of course Hyundai, pricing. 
Rocky
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- #72 of 5696
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Re: I'm confused [snakeweasel]
by gpk
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Apr 08, 2007 (6:33 am)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Apr 08, 2007 6:23 am)
A diesel hybrid is optimal. I was thinking that the biggest strike against hybrids right now is the lagging battery technology aspect of the equation.
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- #73 of 5696
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Re: I'm confused [gpk]
by snakeweasel
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Apr 08, 2007 (6:36 am)
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Replying to: gpk (Apr 08, 2007 6:33 am)
The biggest strike against hybrids is that they are far more complicated. That means its more likely to break down and when it does more expensive to buy.
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- #74 of 5696
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Re: I'm confused [snakeweasel]
by paisan
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Apr 08, 2007 (6:40 am)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Apr 08, 2007 6:36 am)
Agreed, hybrids in 10 years are going to be super expensive to fix once out of warranty...
I'll take a diesel, preferrably an Isuzu based diesel system any day of the week. It's funny the Duramax Diesel is actually Isuzu in the GMs. 
-mike
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- #75 of 5696
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Hyundai Diesels get over 60mpg; Beat Prius in London Test
by prosource1
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Apr 08, 2007 (10:14 am)
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http://www.autobloggreen.com/2006/10/17/hyundai-getz-as-efficient-as-a-toyota-pr- ius-in-london-test/
63 MPG
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/roadtests/43126/hyundai_getz.html
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Re: Hyundai Diesels get over 60mpg; Beat Prius in London Test [prosource1]
by snakeweasel
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Apr 08, 2007 (11:45 am)
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Replying to: prosource1 (Apr 08, 2007 10:14 am)
Being in London I would guess thats Imperial gallons which is 20% more than a US gallon. So 63 MPG would be 52.5, which still is a lot.
According to the Hyundai UK web site the Getz gets 42.8 city and 60.3 highway in the diesel version. The gasser gets about 20% less.
I do wish they would bring that car here.
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Re: I'm confused [rockylee]
by drdonrs
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Apr 08, 2007 (6:54 pm)
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 08, 2007 6:19 am)
I own an 06 Azera Limited as well as an 06 Sonata LX6 which are replacing 03 Acura TL's. Let me tell you that the Azera is luxurious and has "boulevard manners" and my Sonata is like a frisky colt. My Azera is competitive with the Avalon and the Lexus LS, and I have driven in both of those cars. The problem as I see it is that the present dealerships do not have the luxury mentality and do not offer the ambiance that the luxury owner craves as well as the "badge cache". That being said if you are looking for value, performance as well as quality at a price that is considerably less than the competition then Hyundai is the answer. I have been more than happy with my cars. I have had the Sonata for 15 months and the car is as "tight" as the day I bought it, and very few problems, if any. I have had the Azera for 8 months absolutely trouble free in every aspect. The Genesis can be a winner if marketed well, certainly better than the Azera. As an aside the Azera is going to be equipped with the Sonata 6 at a lower entry point and the planning for the Genesis is to also offer it with a 6 cylinder engine. This would interest me.
Don
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- #78 of 5696
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Re: I'm confused [drdonrs]
by paisan
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Apr 08, 2007 (7:00 pm)
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Replying to: drdonrs (Apr 08, 2007 6:54 pm)
I like the Azera, but it's not an LS, sorry. RWD and V8 is nothing like a V6 FWD.
-mike
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