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#5781 of 6042 Re: Hyundai Genesis - winter driving [hundafiniti] by westwindlion

Apr 01, 2010 (12:12 pm)

Replying to: hundafiniti (Apr 01, 2010 10:08 am)
Actually, the Dunlops are not that bad as I drove in 2 major snow storms in NJ (Feb 2010). Similar Dunlop OEMs are also installed on BMW X5 V8 Model.
 
Genesis 3.8 Fully loaded is really nice as I drive one since Oct 2009 (6 months). So far no technical issues at all - It is a world class car. However, there is a refresh planned for 2011 (Oct/Nov 2010 launch) to coincide with launch of Equus Luxury car.
 
2009 / 2010 Genesis has a few minor issues:
1. Ride quality unsettled due to bumpy suspension, especially on rough road surface and uneven road.
2. Car Pull to the Right or Left hand side - this is due to poor steering design.
 
Hyundai is going to address both issues with 2011 Refresh.
 
So if you have patience and can hold on until Oct / Nov 2010 - that should be great.
 
Genesis is far more superior that Infinity 35x, except the AWD feature.
 
Hope my feedback helps.
 
Kinjal

#5782 of 6042 Re: Hyundai Genesis - winter driving [hundafiniti] by alonzo2

Apr 01, 2010 (6:32 pm)

Replying to: hundafiniti (Apr 01, 2010 10:08 am)
I have owned an Infinity Q45 for 11 years and replaced it with a 2009 Genesis 6 cyl with tech package. They are two totally different cars. The infinity is a soft suspension Lexus style highway car with intermediate power, low torque, highly luxurious that drives itself and makes it hard for the driver to imagine he is actually driving the car. The Genesis is a high torque, refined, luxury car with a sports tuned suspension that reminds the driver every moment that he or she is driving an incredible piece of engineering that requires continuous attention and focus. The Genesis is more akin the Jaguar XK.
 
The Infinity requires high octane gas and because of this toward the end I had to take the throttle body apart every 5 thousand miles and clean the glob of glue and varnish off the butterfly valve. I recommend checking the cost of a standard repair on the Infinity before purchase. My high beam headlight went out and when I called the dealer(who is the only repair shop capable of fixing an Infinity) I found the repair would cost $650 unless the capacitor had to be replaced in which case it would be closer to $1000! Further the repair would be dangerous for an amateur to attempt and required proprietary tools that only an Infinity dealer has. I dissected through the maze of wires and battery supports carefully avoiding the "Danger High Voltage" circuits only to find the headlamp assembly back template had bizarre baffles that I'm sure required a $500 tool to remove. To these I applied my high tech dykes and cut the baffles off then simply unscrewing the back and replacing the xenon lamp with one from Ebay for $35. I then immediately drove up and down the street in front of the dealership turning my headlamps on and off while honking my horn. I now have one purple and one blue headlamp but I am $965 richer. So before you buy the Infinity ask the dealer how much he would charge to replace the headlamp before you write the check.

#5783 of 6042 Genesis in the snow by pogo5

Apr 02, 2010 (5:04 am)

I live in Milwaukee WI. You do need snow tires! I have them on the back only, and they make the world of difference! It is like driving a front wheel drive car. Don't take any chances, get snows.

#5784 of 6042 Re: Hyundai Genesis - winter driving [hundafiniti] by genesis57

Apr 02, 2010 (8:15 am)

Replying to: hundafiniti (Apr 01, 2010 10:08 am)
I live in CT and found the factory Dunlops to be downright dangerous tires. I think we should all band together and force Hyundai to replace them.
 
Regarding the snow tire question...I did change to Bridgestone Blizzaks all around (after lots of research of various brands...try Tirerack.com) and it made a huge difference. I was able to navigate quite well in the snow and icey roads. I highly recommend getting the snow tires, but be careful to use them on all 4 wheels...not just the two rear wheels. You need the added traction for steering. Do the research and you'll see what I'm talking about.
 
Safe driving.
 
Anyone else want to take on Hyundai regarding the crappy standard equipment tires? Anyone have any history of them causing accidents or loss of control?
 
Jag

#5785 of 6042 Re: Hyundai Genesis - winter driving [alonzo2] by houdini1

Apr 02, 2010 (12:25 pm)

Replying to: alonzo2 (Apr 01, 2010 6:32 pm)
Good post. Loved it !

#5786 of 6042 Re: Hyundai Genesis - winter driving [westwindlion] by jmonroe

Apr 03, 2010 (6:12 am)

Replying to: westwindlion (Apr 01, 2010 12:12 pm)
Actually, the Dunlops are not that bad as I drove in 2 major snow storms in NJ (Feb 2010).
 
Actually, the Dunlops are a HORRIBLE tire in the snow. I have never had a tire that was so BAD in the snow. I live in the Pittsburgh area and we had a very bad winter this year. Waaay worse than the normal for this area compared to many years past. I had heard about how BAD the Dunlops were in the snow and experienced this first hand. I was not expecting it to be good based on what I had heard but I wasn’t expecting it to be as BAD as it was, even with just a few flakes on the road. That car was so BAD in the snow I parked it and took Mrs. jmonroe’s car until I bought dedicated snow tires (Nokian Hakkapeliitta R) and rims.
 
1. Ride quality unsettled due to bumpy suspension, especially on rough road surface and uneven road.
2. Car Pull to the Right or Left hand side - this is due to poor steering design.
 
I don’t have a problem with the ride of the Genius like others here. Maybe that’s because I have the V8 but I doubt it. I wasn’t expecting the car to ride like my family room couch, rather, a good firm soft ride and that’s what I got. Everyone (without exception) that has been in my car comments about how well it rides so I’m not the only one that doesn’t have a problem with the ride of my car.
 
'colegar'...I also appreciate your updates as you put on the miles. Thanks for taking the time to inform us of your experiences.
 
All in all, I’m very satisfied with this car.
 
jmonroe

#5787 of 6042 Re: Hyundai Genesis - winter driving [jmonroe] by colegar

Apr 05, 2010 (12:08 pm)

Replying to: jmonroe (Apr 03, 2010 6:12 am)
'jmonroe', It looks like I spoke too fast when I reported that the “re-flashing” of the electronic module had apparently fixed the problem that I am having with the car shuddering and/or surging at highway speeds. The problem is not consistent but it is definitely still there. I still believe that it is related to the torque converter erratically going in and out of the “locked” state.
 
I have not had time to leave it with the dealer for them to work on it. I anticipate it being hard for them to replicate on short test drives like they typically take. For example, it did not exhibit the problem at all for the first sixty miles that I drove this morning. However, when I drove it to lunch, it was as bad as it has ever been.
 
I will be in Italy for eight days beginning April 23rd so I am planning to leave the car with the dealer while I am gone. I will report back when I know something.

#5788 of 6042 by jmonroe

Apr 05, 2010 (12:26 pm)

Replying to: toye (Mar 22, 2010 3:31 pm)
I was recomended the Bridgestone Turanza Serenity at $1047 including alignment.
 
Do you have the V6 or the V8. I have the V8 (standard 18 inch wheels, tire size P235/50R18, 97V rating) and I can’t even smell that price WITHOUT an alignment.
 
The price I just got on Friday from 2 different Firestone stores was identical, $1194.58. However, that price did include lifetime balancing and road hazard warranty. I’m also leaning towards getting the Firestone lifetime alignment at $180 if I go with the Serenity’s but the price I got did not include any type of alignment .
 
jmonroe

#5789 of 6042 by jmonroe

Apr 05, 2010 (12:43 pm)

Replying to: colegar (Apr 05, 2010 12:08 pm)
It looks like I spoke too fast when I reported that the “re-flashing” of the electronic module had apparently fixed the problem that I am having with the car shuddering and/or surging at highway speeds.
 
That ain't good.
 
I hope they find the fix when you leave it with the dealer while you're in Italy. If you have a good dealer they should be able to find the cause.
 
I went to Ohio from the Pittsburgh area to get my Genny so I will have to take mine to the local Hyundai dealer for service. Mine has only been to that dealer once. About a week after I got the car and filled it up, the next day I had a check engine light that came on. The dealer said the tank sensors were confused and they reset the computer and no more of that problem.
 
Try to enjoy your trip to Italy.
 
jmonroe

#5790 of 6042 Re: Hyundai Genesis - winter driving [jmonroe] by tjc78

Apr 05, 2010 (12:43 pm)

Replying to: jmonroe (Apr 03, 2010 6:12 am)
so I’m not the only one that doesn’t have a problem with the ride of my car.
 
J,
 
I think its largely subjective. I am beginning more and more to hate the way mine rides. No fault of the car, just my preference. I have had others ride in mine and tell me I am nuts that it rides great. I continue to sing the car's praises where applicable, however, in terms of ride I would never buy another one unless they do something with the unsettled/rough nature of the ride. I am sure that would compromise handling, but thats my preference. FWIW I did come out of back to back Toyota Avalons which are soft and floaty.

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