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Re: Top Gear RPMs [jmonroe] by bman900
Oct 21, 2009 (6:58 am)
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Replying to: jmonroe (Oct 21, 2009 4:03 am)

Thanks for running the gauntlet to test the V8 I remember travelling the PA Turnpike years ago and it was a total speed trap. I travel I-4 in Orlando and the limit is 70 mph most of the way, so most people go about 80.
 
Sounds like the V6 and V8 are pretty similiar in top gear, which is about what I expected.
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Re: Genesis ride [tjc78] by backy
Oct 21, 2009 (7:20 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Oct 21, 2009 6:32 am)

I disagree with you there. Hyundai has had too much "drives like a Buick" in its past to go back there with the Genesis. Leave that driving experience to the Buicks of the world. IMO the target for the Genesis' ride and handling should be the 5 Series. Great handling, with a firm but compliant ride. If Hyundai could mimic the 5 Series' ride and handling at thousands less, that would be one of the all-time great automotive bargains.
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Re: Genesis ride [backy] by tjc78
Oct 21, 2009 (7:43 am)
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Replying to: backy (Oct 21, 2009 7:20 am)

If Hyundai could mimic the 5 Series' ride
 
Not everyone likes the 5 series ride. Including me. Handling yes, amazing, but firmer than the Genesis. To each his own.
 
Leave that driving experience to the Buicks of the world.
 
Toyota and Lexus have no trouble selling vehicles like that. The only people I really hear complaining are the auto mags that drive the snot out of them, FWIW most Hyundai's are pretty soft (Elantra, Azera, Sonata) and that is a big reason for their success to the masses. There are many many people that still like "family car float".
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Re: Genesis ride [backy] by tayl0rd
Oct 21, 2009 (7:47 am)
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Replying to: backy (Oct 21, 2009 7:20 am)

... If Hyundai could mimic the 5 Series' ride and handling at thousands less, that would be one of the all-time great automotive bargains.
 
Infiniti M, anyone? I think they already took care of that.
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Re: Genesis ride [backy] by poodog13
Oct 21, 2009 (7:47 am)
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Replying to: backy (Oct 21, 2009 7:20 am)

As someone who lives in an area with terrible road conditions, I much prefer a vehicle with a middle-of-the-road suspension. I've turned away from cars with "sport" suspensions in the past both because of the impact of the initial ride quality, but more importantly because the stiffness of the suspension combined with local road conditions causes long-term reliability problems with suspension components.
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Re: Genesis ride [tjc78] by allmet33
Oct 22, 2009 (6:56 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Oct 21, 2009 6:32 am)

Personally (and I think I said this before) the Genesis should be tuned to a soft isolated ride (no doubt this chassis is capable of it) and then offer an all out sport option for those who desire it. That way you can "have it your way" and everyone wins. Except of course for Hyundai because there would be more production costs having two suspensions.
 
Considering Hyundai now has the components for an adjustable air suspension (as per the upcoming Equus), tweaking it for the Genesis doesn't seem like it would be a hard thing to do and since the components are already in-house, it would cut costs down. Personally, I think this would be a terrific answer for a car like the Genesis as it could possibly be the icing on the cake and eliminate the suspension issues many complain about. This is the same company that offered Shiftronic on the Sonata in 2002...they could pull it off.
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Re: Genesis ride [allmet33] by tjc78
Oct 22, 2009 (7:24 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Oct 22, 2009 6:56 am)

I don't feel they need the added complexity and cost of an all out air suspension. Just softer dampers than currently being used. You then could offer a "sport or touring" option that includes of course stiffer springs/shocks and an aggressive wheel and tire package.
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Re: Genesis ride [tjc78] by bobad
Oct 22, 2009 (7:53 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Oct 22, 2009 7:24 am)

I'm with you on that.
 
Wouldn't be a big deal. A higher spring rate and slightly stiffer shocks wouldn't cost Hyundai a dime more to manufacture, and should be a very inexpensive option. I wouldn't go for it, as yanking a luxury sedan through a slalom doesn't make much sense to me. If I wanted to do that, I would get the Coupe.
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Re: Genesis ride [tjc78] by allmet33
Oct 22, 2009 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Oct 22, 2009 7:24 am)

Would an air bag system really be more complicated than an electronic option?
 
I have heard that there's a difference in the ride with the 3.8 base model that comes with the 17" wheels...slightly taller sidewall on the tires. It has also been posted that the 2010 Genesis seems to ride a little better than the previous model, so maybe Hyundai addressed the damper issue.
 
However, with a car like the Genesis, an adjustable suspension would truly be nice. It's a car that is extremely capable as a highway cruiser and I'm sure it eats up smooth highways like a dream, but with the power on tap under the gas pedal and the athletic lines of the car...there are some that would really love to "drive" the car as they would a BMW and truly enjoy it in that manner as well.
 
Offering a stiffer spring/shock combo with an aggressive tire package would pigeon-hole the car and the driver wouldn't have the option of a softer ride when wanted. From my past experience, the stiffer springs/shocks and aggressive tires (low profile) are going to make the car ride harder, which could spell doom even more so over uneven surfaces.

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