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Re: Genesis ride [ken615]
by backy
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Oct 20, 2009 (7:35 pm)
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Replying to: ken615 (Oct 20, 2009 7:06 pm)
If you really want a Genesis, I recommend you take a 2010 for a spin (preferably with the standard wheels/tires) as soon as it's available in your area. The suspension tweaks plus the taller sidewalls might be just the ticket for you. Or not. But at least then you know for sure.
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- #5628 of 5696
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Re: Top Gear RPMs [bman900]
by jmonroe
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Oct 21, 2009 (4:03 am)
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Replying to: bman900 (Oct 20, 2009 6:45 am)
The V6 Genesis engine turns approx 2150 RPM at 80 MPH. Does anyone know if the V8 has a taller ratio at this same speed (in other words does it rev lower on the highway)?
At the risk of getting a ticket this morning on the PA turnpike (65 MPH is the speed limit), I have some empirical data for you. I hope you appreciate it.
My V8 does the same at 80 MPH. Set on cruise, for a mile stretch, on level road several times, mine said 2125 RPM so I’d say the V6 and the V8 are the same. A digital readout would be ideal for this sort of stuff but hey, it’s just a Hyundai for crying out loud.
So, what are you going to do? Remember, it’s a Hyundai that has a ride “more like a hay-wagon than a true "sports" sedan”. An unreliable GM luxo with a nice ride, for the times it isn’t on the rack, might be the answer.
‘steven’: the red line on a V8 is 6750 RPM. I don’t know what it is on a V6.
jmonroe
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- #5629 of 5696
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Re: Genesis ride [backy]
by tjc78
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Oct 21, 2009 (4:15 am)
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Replying to: backy (Oct 20, 2009 7:35 pm)
Its funny how the ride issue seems to dominate the forums. It really tears up the "genesis owners.com" website. The biggest problem here is that its a subjective issue. Some love it, some hate it. I have complained about it too, of course I am comparing it more to the ride I am used to (Avalon, ES350 etc). If you want that type of ride simply do not buy the Genesis. I thought I wanted something stiffer and more sporty and after living with my Genesis for about 6 months I now know I made a bad decision. The car is far too stiff for my liking. Its a shame because it really is a special car. The V6 has broken in nicely with plenty of power, the interior is awesome, the features are great, and its a quiet as anything on the road. To top it all off, no problems either.
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- #5630 of 5696
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Re: Genesis ride [tjc78]
by jmonroe
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Oct 21, 2009 (5:21 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Oct 21, 2009 4:15 am)
To top it all off, no problems either.
That otta do it.
jmonroe
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- #5631 of 5696
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Re: Genesis ride [jmonroe]
by bobad
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Oct 21, 2009 (5:48 am)
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Replying to: jmonroe (Oct 21, 2009 5:21 am)
To top it all off, no problems either.
That otta do it.
Maybe TJ should trade it in on something that breaks down more often. Hey, free coffee and donuts!
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- #5632 of 5696
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Re: Genesis ride [tjc78]
by backy
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Oct 21, 2009 (6:01 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Oct 21, 2009 4:15 am)
Some love it, some hate it.
From the analysis I did of all of the owner's comments on the 2009 Genesis at Edmunds.com a few weeks ago (posted here, or maybe it was in the "Luxury Market" discussion), it appears those who hate the ride of the Genesis are in the minority--and a very small minority. There were almost as many comments about the ride being too soft as it being unacceptably firm, to the point it's a big problem.
That doesn't make complaints from owners who don't like the ride any less valid, but let's keep things in perspective.
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- #5633 of 5696
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Re: Genesis ride [backy]
by bobad
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Oct 21, 2009 (6:18 am)
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Replying to: backy (Oct 21, 2009 6:01 am)
Backy, I would love to see a cross tab comparing those who like the ride, and those who don't, including make and model of their previous car. I bet that explains some of the varying owner perception of the ride. The 10's are out, and no complaints so far that I can find. It's guaranteed there will be some complaints, because statistically, ~10% of all people are never satisfied with anything,
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- #5634 of 5696
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Re: Genesis ride [backy]
by tjc78
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Oct 21, 2009 (6:32 am)
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Replying to: backy (Oct 21, 2009 6:01 am)
There are two different ride complaints. There are those who in a subjective quality don't like it and there are several here and other websites that feel there is something wrong with their car. I am in the former category. I feel Hyundai designed this car to appeal to a broad audience. That is why it isn't super firm like a 5 series or M and no where near the isolation an ES350 would provide.
Personally (and I think I said this before) the Genesis should be tuned to a soft isolated ride (no doubt this chassis is capable of it) and then offer an all out sport option for those who desire it. That way you can "have it your way" and everyone wins. Except of course for Hyundai because there would be more production costs having two suspensions.
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Re: Top Gear RPMs [jmonroe]
by bman900
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Oct 21, 2009 (6:58 am)
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Replying to: jmonroe (Oct 21, 2009 4:03 am)
Thanks for running the gauntlet to test the V8 I remember travelling the PA Turnpike years ago and it was a total speed trap. I travel I-4 in Orlando and the limit is 70 mph most of the way, so most people go about 80.
Sounds like the V6 and V8 are pretty similiar in top gear, which is about what I expected.
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- #5636 of 5696
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Re: Genesis ride [tjc78]
by backy
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Oct 21, 2009 (7:20 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Oct 21, 2009 6:32 am)
I disagree with you there. Hyundai has had too much "drives like a Buick" in its past to go back there with the Genesis. Leave that driving experience to the Buicks of the world. IMO the target for the Genesis' ride and handling should be the 5 Series. Great handling, with a firm but compliant ride. If Hyundai could mimic the 5 Series' ride and handling at thousands less, that would be one of the all-time great automotive bargains.
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