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#5625 of 5696
Genesis ride by ken615
Oct 20, 2009 (7:06 pm)
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Ok, now I've driven both a V6 and a V8 version of the 2009 Genesis. I still haven't driven a 2010, so my comment only applies to the older version. In my opinion, the Genesis is a beautiful car, the engine and transmission are well matched, the interior is gorgeous...but, the ride is awful. Both cars were equipped with18 inch wheels, the terrible Dunlop tires (very stiff sidewalls and terrible tread wear), both were close to the specified inflation guidelines, and the ride on both was more like a hay-wagon than a true "sports" sedan. In my opinion, Hyundai made some awful choices in the suspension design and the wheels/tires selections and the resulting harsh ride will only slow Genesis sales. I agree with an earlier poster...I don't see many Genesis sedans in the DC metro area except on dealer lots. Pretty sad statement in one of the richest areas in the country. When it comes to ride preferences, even Cadillac had to make two versions available: the STS for the boy-racers and the SLS for those who liked a composed rather than harsh ride. I'm in my fourth consecutive SLS for those reasons. No handling problems but then I can't feel a dime on the road either. It's really too bad since I really wanted a Genesis for my next car (I'm really tired of the GM reliability issues). Maybe Hyundai should have followed the Mazda example and offered an adjustable suspension...soft, normal, and sport. My old Mazda 626 turbo offered that, and when I wanted to play games in the Rocky mountains, I chose the sport mode. Everyday commuting was in the normal or soft mode due to the lousy roads in the Denver region. Maybe Hyundai will wake up in the next couple of years and correct the ride. For the time being, I'm back in the market for an Azera (my wife's 2006 Azera SE has been bullet-proof, no problems in over 35K miles and none of the suspension problems noted in the Azera forum.) Maybe we were just lucky. For those of you who bought the current version of the Genesis and enjoy it, good for you and enjoy your purchase. It's just not for me. I'm not trying to start an argument here, just one person's perspective, and I really hope that Hyundai corrects the issue because the Genesis is the only car that I've looked at that makes me excited about buying a new car.
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Re: Genesis ride [ken615] by houdini1
Oct 20, 2009 (7:25 pm)
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Replying to: ken615 (Oct 20, 2009 7:06 pm)

You just joined Edmunds this month and have posted twice, both times in this forum and both times saying almost the same thing about how bad the ride is in the 2009 Genesis.
 
You obviously do not like the ride in the Genesis, but what would prompt you to 1, join Edmunds and 2, proceed to start posting about a car that you do not like and have no interest in owning ?
 
I would think the natural thing to do would be to gravitate to the forums and cars that do appeal to you. If I don't like a certain car then I have no interest in it so I don't follow discussions about it.
 
Just curious.
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Re: Genesis ride [ken615] by backy
Oct 20, 2009 (7:35 pm)
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Replying to: ken615 (Oct 20, 2009 7:06 pm)

If you really want a Genesis, I recommend you take a 2010 for a spin (preferably with the standard wheels/tires) as soon as it's available in your area. The suspension tweaks plus the taller sidewalls might be just the ticket for you. Or not. But at least then you know for sure.
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Re: Top Gear RPMs [bman900] by jmonroe
Oct 21, 2009 (4:03 am)
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Replying to: bman900 (Oct 20, 2009 6:45 am)

The V6 Genesis engine turns approx 2150 RPM at 80 MPH. Does anyone know if the V8 has a taller ratio at this same speed (in other words does it rev lower on the highway)?
 
At the risk of getting a ticket this morning on the PA turnpike (65 MPH is the speed limit), I have some empirical data for you. I hope you appreciate it.
 
My V8 does the same at 80 MPH. Set on cruise, for a mile stretch, on level road several times, mine said 2125 RPM so I’d say the V6 and the V8 are the same. A digital readout would be ideal for this sort of stuff but hey, it’s just a Hyundai for crying out loud.
 
So, what are you going to do? Remember, it’s a Hyundai that has a ride “more like a hay-wagon than a true "sports" sedan”. An unreliable GM luxo with a nice ride, for the times it isn’t on the rack, might be the answer.
 
‘steven’: the red line on a V8 is 6750 RPM. I don’t know what it is on a V6.
 
jmonroe
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Re: Genesis ride [backy] by tjc78
Oct 21, 2009 (4:15 am)
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Replying to: backy (Oct 20, 2009 7:35 pm)

Its funny how the ride issue seems to dominate the forums. It really tears up the "genesis owners.com" website. The biggest problem here is that its a subjective issue. Some love it, some hate it. I have complained about it too, of course I am comparing it more to the ride I am used to (Avalon, ES350 etc). If you want that type of ride simply do not buy the Genesis. I thought I wanted something stiffer and more sporty and after living with my Genesis for about 6 months I now know I made a bad decision. The car is far too stiff for my liking. Its a shame because it really is a special car. The V6 has broken in nicely with plenty of power, the interior is awesome, the features are great, and its a quiet as anything on the road. To top it all off, no problems either.
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Re: Genesis ride [tjc78] by jmonroe
Oct 21, 2009 (5:21 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Oct 21, 2009 4:15 am)

To top it all off, no problems either.
 
That otta do it.
 
jmonroe
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Re: Genesis ride [jmonroe] by bobad
Oct 21, 2009 (5:48 am)
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Replying to: jmonroe (Oct 21, 2009 5:21 am)

To top it all off, no problems either.
  
That otta do it.
 

 
Maybe TJ should trade it in on something that breaks down more often. Hey, free coffee and donuts!
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Re: Genesis ride [tjc78] by backy
Oct 21, 2009 (6:01 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Oct 21, 2009 4:15 am)

Some love it, some hate it.
 
From the analysis I did of all of the owner's comments on the 2009 Genesis at Edmunds.com a few weeks ago (posted here, or maybe it was in the "Luxury Market" discussion), it appears those who hate the ride of the Genesis are in the minority--and a very small minority. There were almost as many comments about the ride being too soft as it being unacceptably firm, to the point it's a big problem.
 
That doesn't make complaints from owners who don't like the ride any less valid, but let's keep things in perspective.
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Re: Genesis ride [backy] by bobad
Oct 21, 2009 (6:18 am)
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Replying to: backy (Oct 21, 2009 6:01 am)

Backy, I would love to see a cross tab comparing those who like the ride, and those who don't, including make and model of their previous car. I bet that explains some of the varying owner perception of the ride. The 10's are out, and no complaints so far that I can find. It's guaranteed there will be some complaints, because statistically, ~10% of all people are never satisfied with anything,
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Re: Genesis ride [backy] by tjc78
Oct 21, 2009 (6:32 am)
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Replying to: backy (Oct 21, 2009 6:01 am)

There are two different ride complaints. There are those who in a subjective quality don't like it and there are several here and other websites that feel there is something wrong with their car. I am in the former category. I feel Hyundai designed this car to appeal to a broad audience. That is why it isn't super firm like a 5 series or M and no where near the isolation an ES350 would provide.
 
Personally (and I think I said this before) the Genesis should be tuned to a soft isolated ride (no doubt this chassis is capable of it) and then offer an all out sport option for those who desire it. That way you can "have it your way" and everyone wins. Except of course for Hyundai because there would be more production costs having two suspensions.

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