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Replying to: tjc78 (Jul 06, 2009 9:55 am) I agree with much of your comparison between the Genesis and the Avalon as it relates to comfort, roominess and isolating the road. However, I have exactly the opposite opinion when comparing the two V6 engines, and I too own both. The 3.5 Toyota engine is very "zoomy" and quick revving but it does all its "stuff" in that one single rush and does so with more "fuss" than the 3.8 Genesis engine. I give the Genesis much higher marks for sophistication and performance at higher speeds. Mated with the slick six-speed automatic, the Genesis is incredibly efficient at always selecting the right combination for real-world driving satisfaction. I do a lot of driving in the Blue Ridge Mountains and I really find the Genesis to be a great road car in a wide variety of conditions. Don't get me wrong ... I think the Avalon is a great, comfortable sedan and it will probably last forever without serious issues. It definitely does not transmit every bump like the Genesis does. In my previous posts, I have talked about the fact that I can't tell a lot of difference in real-world driving performance between the V6 and V8 Genesis models. I was hell bent on getting a V8 but went ahead with the V6 before the eight was available. When the first V8 arrived, the dealer wanted me to drive it. At very high speeds, the eight starts pulling away from the V6. In normal but spirited driving, the six is amazingly close! I crawled out of the V8 and decided that i was more than happy with my six banger. If you knew how many performace oriented cars I have owned, you would know how significant that was! Incidentally, I have been posting an update every 5,000 miles or so. My last post was at 25K and I am now at 28K. Unless something unexpected happens, my next post will be focused on my search for the best replacement tires. Although I still had about 10,000 miles of tread remaining, I ruined one tire and decided to go ahead and replace all four. I wound up trying one brand but am now switching to a different brand for reasons that I will explain in my next update a few weeks from now. I am curious to know if any of you other owners have stacked up this many miles and how similar your experience has been to mine. |
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Replying to: colegar (Jul 09, 2009 11:22 am) The Genesis is a good car as is, but if they could bump the power a little on the V6 and tweak the suspension it could be an excellent car.
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Replying to: bman900 (Jul 09, 2009 11:58 am) 
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Replying to: bman900 (Jul 09, 2009 11:58 am) 
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God I hope not! While engineering does continually evolve, it seems every time that a manufacturer starts chasing the high-output HP, fuel economy suffers big time. I'd much prefer around 265hp with better MPG.
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Replying to: poodog13 (Jul 09, 2009 4:01 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 09, 2009 6:18 pm) Hyundai should have the technology to bump up the V6.... The Tau 4.6 liter V8 produces 80 HP/Litre (368 total), so using that formula they should be able to bring the 3.8 engine up to 304 HP.
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Replying to: bman900 (Jul 09, 2009 7:34 pm) I agree with the earlier post though re why not use this technology to improve FE even more by keeping the output down? Surely there is a trade-off for power vs. FE at some point. It begs the question as to whether Hyundai would ever go the hybrid route with the Genesis V6 sedan, using the lithium polymer batteries and other technologies they are developing for the Sonata et. al.
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Replying to: backy (Jul 09, 2009 7:45 pm) The Genesis engine is designed to be smooth and deliver nice power lower in the RPM range. The G37 needs 7000 RPM to deliver 330hp, and it's no smooth operator at that speed. Hyundai could easily tweak the air/fuel ratios and cam/valve timing to bump the peak HP a few points. But, just like every other manufacturer, they'd just be robbing Peter to pay Paul.
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Replying to: colegar (Jul 09, 2009 11:22 am) Right, quick revving and always "wanting" to be pushed hard even in a car not really meant for spirtited driving. I just don't get that from the Hyundai. Toyota's 3.5 is the probably the best V6 out there (especially in direct injected form). As for the transmission in the Genesis, its made by Toyota anyway. It suffers from the same crazy shift logic that is geared more toward fuel economy than anything else.
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