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Re: August Automobile Magazine [bobad] by lilengineerboy
Jun 29, 2009 (7:43 pm)
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Replying to: bobad (Jun 29, 2009 5:37 pm)

"Is it sad that I prefer spending time behind the wheel of our Genesis 4.6 more than I do our 750Li? People can't believe I'd think such a thing, but I can't get over the artificial feel of the BMW, which is supposed to be a "driving machine."
 
Judging by the many positive quotes, I think the Automobile Magazine staff is impressed. The third comment is stunning.
 
I don't know what he was expecting. It should be more fun to pilot a sport sedan than a land barge. Somewhat akin to saying I prefer the feel of the Mustang to the Town Car...
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Re: Hyundai dealer from another planet [captain2] by allmet33
Jun 30, 2009 (7:57 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jun 26, 2009 10:40 am)

BTW that 'appliance' Avalon will blow the doors off of anything that Hyundai makes (save for the V8)
 
Are you really sure about that statement Captain???
 
The Avalon is shown to run 0-60 anywhere from high 6's to low 7's and the Genesis 3.8 is shown to run low to mid 6's. How does that equate to blowing the doors off anything Hyundai makes??? Heck, even the Azera is hitting low to mid 7's 0-60 my friend. Hmmmmmmmmmmm...what exactly is YOUR definition of "blows away"???
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Re: Equus Effect? [marvinlee1] by allmet33
Jun 30, 2009 (8:17 am)
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Replying to: marvinlee1 (Jun 28, 2009 5:10 pm)

The Genesis is a much older design than is generally understood here.
 
Actually marvinlee1...the concept of the Equus is much older than that of the Genesis, here's an entry on Wikipedia that shows the Equus getting its start as early as 1999: Wikipedia: Hyundai Equus
 
According to Wikipedia info. concept for the Genesis began in 2003 and the actual concept vehicle was introduced in 2007.
 
Remember back in 2002 when they dropped the HCD-7...it was given the Equus name.
 
Hyundai HCD-7 Equus Concept
 
In all honesty...the HCD-7 is the one they should have moved forward with. The styling would have given them a very unique character on the road, even if it does look like a Bentley from the rear. This was one sweet design I was sad to see them pass on.
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Re: Hyundai dealer from another planet [allmet33] by tonycd
Jun 30, 2009 (2:36 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Jun 30, 2009 7:57 am)

Even better than that. Consumer Guide had the '08 Azera at 6.2 seconds to 60. Car and Driver had the '06 edition at 6.1.
 
Which makes sense, considering it's a very similar engine to the Genesis 3.8 in a car that weighs less.
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Re: August Automobile Magazine [lilengineerboy] by tonycd
Jun 30, 2009 (3:16 pm)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Jun 29, 2009 7:43 pm)

"Is it sad that I prefer spending time behind the wheel of our Genesis 4.6 more than I do our 750Li? People can't believe I'd think such a thing, but I can't get over the artificial feel of the BMW, which is supposed to be a 'driving machine'."
  
I don't know what he was expecting. It should be more fun to pilot a sport sedan than a land barge. Somewhat akin to saying I prefer the feel of the Mustang to the Town Car...

 
Not so fast, lilengineerboy. The numbers don't lie. Even the long-wheelbase Li version of the 750 is less than 10 inches longer than the Genesis 4.6, and weighs only 305 pounds more. That's not enough difference to hang any heavy excuses on.
 
One other number needs mentioning here, too: the BMW's BASE price of $84,200, which is more than twice the $42,000 tab for a Genesis with the full boat of options. That amount of money is supposed to buy you the exotic materials and sophisticated engineering to free you from compromises such as "boat-like" road manners.
 
One thing is for sure: if history is any guide, the extra money certainly doesn't buy you greater reliability. Other than the Hyundai's regrettable fake wood, in fact, I'm not sure just what great dimension of superiority there is.
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Re: August Automobile Magazine [tonycd] by minivanguy
Jun 30, 2009 (8:05 pm)
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Replying to: tonycd (Jun 30, 2009 3:16 pm)

Are you referring to the fake wood in the lower end hyundai models?
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Re: August Automobile Magazine [tonycd] by fedlawman
Jun 30, 2009 (9:13 pm)
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Replying to: tonycd (Jun 30, 2009 3:16 pm)

Why stop at the BMW 750?
 
The Genesis is almost as fast and handles almost as well as a Bentley Continental Flying Spur - and the Bentley costs $240,000! The Bentley also gets horrible gas mileage and isn't as reliable.
 
Other than the real wood trim, I can't see any reason to spend the extra $200,000 for the Bentley. The Genesis is, in many ways, a better car!
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Re: August Automobile Magazine [fedlawman] by bobad
Jul 01, 2009 (7:19 am)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Jun 30, 2009 9:13 pm)

Well,,, I guess every car is better than all other cars in some way.
 
But your statement clearly issustrates diminishing returns in ever more expensive cars.
 
A $30K car should be much better than a $15K car, and it is. An $80K car should be much better in many ways than a $40K car, but it isn't. Somewhere, there is a magic price range where extra quality and features for your dollar start falling off rapidly. I think it's somewhere between $30 and $40K.

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