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5692 messages, Last post on Nov 25, 2009 at 6:02 AM
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Even though I still have concerns about the suspension, Genesis Sedan is still on my list of cars to consider. Introduction of the Equus will cause me to wait a while longer or look at another make until Equus has been here for a couple of years. According to Hyundai Think Tank site, it appears Equus is right around the corner - January or Summer 2010? They already have 10 Korean versions touring the country. Even though I live in most affluent and largest metro area of SC, I have seen very few Azera or Genesis' in the last six months. In fact only seen one Genesis at all off a dealer's lot. They are offering discounts up to $3,000 on Genesis sedans in this area. See lots and lots of BMW, MB, Lexus, Infiniti, Acura, etc. Equus will take sales away from Genesis, the way Genesis did from Azera. Not the time to introduce a $50,000+ car that will hurt own models.
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Replying to: carolinabob (Jun 28, 2009 6:44 am) I don't see it quite that way. While I agree the Equus could take a few sales away from Genesis, I think it will increase Genesis sales more than it hurts. I honestly believe Genesis made such a stir that it sold a lot of Sonata's and even a few Azera's. The Equus could work the same way. You sit in a very nice car, and suddenly your perception of the entire line changes, rightly or wrongly. I think introducing a very nice top line model is a no lose situation. New introductions that flop would not be a disaster at Hyundai like it used to be in Detroit. Hyundai uses their own robots, and computerized tooling is very quick to design, manufacture, and install. They get a ROI much faster than Detroit, so their sales and market share wouldn't have to be high at all in a world market. |
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I have an Azera Limited which I think is great but lease is up. I wan a Genesis 3.8 with the basic premium package. There simply isn't any in Florida but plemty of 3.8's with the tech package. I will be driving to New York within 2 weeks and would be happy to stop off in the Carolinas on way up as the dealers here (Boca Raton) are NOT disocunting either on sale or lease. Can you give me a dealer name or city in NC that I can contact. Thanks, Al |
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Replying to: alross (Jun 28, 2009 9:22 am) Also I believe there still is a low money factor and $1000 rebate on leases. |
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Replying to: carolinabob (Jun 28, 2009 6:44 am) Really, you still believe this? The Think Tank introduced the Equus Discussion Forum only 4 days ago with a 2 minute video (shot with a handy-cam in Hyundai's Orange County parking lot) and the question, "Do you think it's suitable for the US market?" "Equus will take sales away from Genesis, the way Genesis did from Azera. Not the time to introduce a $50,000+ car that will hurt own models." 1. Of course nobody's buying the Azera. For $25,000 you can get a stripped Azera GLS with cloth seats or a Sonata with Leather and power moonroof. For $32,000, you can get a loaded Azera LTD or a Genesis. In 2006, it was a Korean alternative to the Toyota Avalon/Buick LaCrosse. Today, it's irrelevant. 2. I think that if/when the Equus comes to the US, it will sticker for a lot more than $50,000 - more like $60 - $70,000. But, even at $50,000+, that's almost $10,000 more than a fully loaded V8 Genesis. I don't think too many people shopping for the Genesis are going to think, "hmm, for only $200 or $300/month more, I could have an Equus." I think the Genesis should/will remain the Hyundai flagship in the US for at least 2 or 3 years. Eventually, if/when the Equus does come here, it will be too expensive to compete with the Genesis.
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Replying to: fedlawman (Jun 28, 2009 9:51 am) I don't think Hyundai has anything to lose, and a lot to gain by introducing the Equus. As I stated earlier, it's very cheap to produce a USA legal version. It could be introduced very rapidly and painlessly, and withdrawn just as quickly if it doesn't work out. Having a nice full lineup is not only for actual sales, but good stategy.
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Replying to: bobad (Jun 28, 2009 11:05 am) On the other hand, you don't build a high-rise building on top of a weak foundation. I think Hyundai should devote it's resources on strengthening their current lineup (get rid of the Elantra and Azera) and improve quality and performance to compete in their respective classes (Sonata - Accord/Camry fighter and Genesis Coupe - 3-series/G37 fighter). Let the Genesis carry the guide-on for a few years, then, when Americans are ready to wrap their brains around a $60,000 Hyundai, bring in the Equus.
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Replying to: fedlawman (Jun 28, 2009 11:49 am) I think of it exactly opposite. I think the Equus would replace Genesis as the foundation, with the econoboxes on top. A car company trying to improve their image should introduce nice cars, assuming they don't already have any. I think Equus will start at $55K, maybe even $50K. Korean Robots, are capable of producing good cars at amazingly low prices. |
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Replying to: bobad (Jun 28, 2009 12:28 pm)  Your guess about the Equus price also seems more realistic than mine. According to Wikipedia (FWIW), the Genesis sells for the equivalent of about $57,000 US in Korea. The Equus sells for about $96,000. So if the ratio stays the same, that would make the Equus start at about $54,000. Let's just hope that they remove the tacky hood ornament before they send it here... 
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Replying to: fedlawman (Jun 28, 2009 11:49 am) You have got to be kidding. Maybe Toyota should dump the Corolla, Honda the Civic, Ford the Focus, Nissan the Sentra, VW the Jetta etc. also?  There is room for both the Genesis and Equus in Hyundai's lineup, just as there's room for the GS and LS in Lexus'. They are far enough apart in price and design to attract different buyers.
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