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Re: Hyundai dealer from another planet [kenb757] by chuck1919
Jun 26, 2009 (3:48 pm)
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Replying to: kenb757 (Jun 26, 2009 8:35 am)

It's been my experience that car sales people know nothing about the products they sell. Consequently, I do my homework and buy the car that fills my needs. Long term - I think the Genesis sales people will be the same way. The ones that were "trained" to sell the products won't be there in a year. I HAVE NEVER, NEVER SEEN THE SAME SALESPERSON TWICE IN A GIVEN DEALERSHIP. If I was treated right, I will ask for them again and the answer is always - "they don't work here anymore!".
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Re: Hyundai dealer from another planet [tjc78] by obyone
Jun 26, 2009 (11:50 pm)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Jun 26, 2009 3:08 am)

Thanks for the reply.
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Equus Effect? by carolinabob
Jun 28, 2009 (6:44 am)
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Even though I still have concerns about the suspension, Genesis Sedan is still on my list of cars to consider. Introduction of the Equus will cause me to wait a while longer or look at another make until Equus has been here for a couple of years.
   According to Hyundai Think Tank site, it appears Equus is right around the corner - January or Summer 2010? They already have 10 Korean versions touring the country.
   Even though I live in most affluent and largest metro area of SC, I have seen very few Azera or Genesis' in the last six months. In fact only seen one Genesis at all off a dealer's lot. They are offering discounts up to $3,000 on Genesis sedans in this area. See lots and lots of BMW, MB, Lexus, Infiniti, Acura, etc.
    Equus will take sales away from Genesis, the way Genesis did from Azera. Not the time to introduce a $50,000+ car that will hurt own models.
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Re: Equus Effect? [carolinabob] by bobad
Jun 28, 2009 (8:16 am)
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Replying to: carolinabob (Jun 28, 2009 6:44 am)

Equus will take sales away from Genesis, the way Genesis did from Azera. Not the time to introduce a $50,000+ car that will hurt own models.
 
I don't see it quite that way.
 
While I agree the Equus could take a few sales away from Genesis, I think it will increase Genesis sales more than it hurts.
 
I honestly believe Genesis made such a stir that it sold a lot of Sonata's and even a few Azera's. The Equus could work the same way. You sit in a very nice car, and suddenly your perception of the entire line changes, rightly or wrongly.
 
I think introducing a very nice top line model is a no lose situation. New introductions that flop would not be a disaster at Hyundai like it used to be in Detroit. Hyundai uses their own robots, and computerized tooling is very quick to design, manufacture, and install. They get a ROI much faster than Detroit, so their sales and market share wouldn't have to be high at all in a world market.
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Info please by alross
Jun 28, 2009 (9:22 am)
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I have an Azera Limited which I think is great but lease is up. I wan a Genesis 3.8 with the basic premium package. There simply isn't any in Florida but plemty of 3.8's with the tech package.
 
I will be driving to New York within 2 weeks and would be happy to stop off in the Carolinas on way up as the dealers here (Boca Raton) are NOT disocunting either on sale or lease.
 
Can you give me a dealer name or city in NC that I can contact.
 
Thanks,
 
Al
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Re: Info please [alross] by tjc78
Jun 28, 2009 (9:37 am)
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Replying to: alross (Jun 28, 2009 9:22 am)

I can tell you it will be very hard to find a premium only package. A premium plus (18" wheels) is pretty common on the lots here in NJ. The dealer had to jump through hoops to get my Cabernet/Cashmere with premium package only (I don't like the V6's 18" wheels). What I would do is goto Hyundai's website and put in a Charlotte or Raleigh zip code and get the dealer names then google their websites and check inventory. Sort it by price and you'll (hopefully) find what you are looking for.
 
Also I believe there still is a low money factor and $1000 rebate on leases.
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Re: Equus Effect? [carolinabob] by fedlawman
Jun 28, 2009 (9:51 am)
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Replying to: carolinabob (Jun 28, 2009 6:44 am)

"According to Hyundai Think Tank site, it appears Equus is right around the corner"
 
Really, you still believe this?
 
The Think Tank introduced the Equus Discussion Forum only 4 days ago with a 2 minute video (shot with a handy-cam in Hyundai's Orange County parking lot) and the question, "Do you think it's suitable for the US market?"
 
"Equus will take sales away from Genesis, the way Genesis did from Azera. Not the time to introduce a $50,000+ car that will hurt own models."
 
1. Of course nobody's buying the Azera. For $25,000 you can get a stripped Azera GLS with cloth seats or a Sonata with Leather and power moonroof. For $32,000, you can get a loaded Azera LTD or a Genesis. In 2006, it was a Korean alternative to the Toyota Avalon/Buick LaCrosse. Today, it's irrelevant.
 
2. I think that if/when the Equus comes to the US, it will sticker for a lot more than $50,000 - more like $60 - $70,000. But, even at $50,000+, that's almost $10,000 more than a fully loaded V8 Genesis. I don't think too many people shopping for the Genesis are going to think, "hmm, for only $200 or $300/month more, I could have an Equus."
 
I think the Genesis should/will remain the Hyundai flagship in the US for at least 2 or 3 years. Eventually, if/when the Equus does come here, it will be too expensive to compete with the Genesis.
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Re: Equus Effect? [fedlawman] by bobad
Jun 28, 2009 (11:05 am)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Jun 28, 2009 9:51 am)

I think the Genesis should/will remain the Hyundai flagship in the US for at least 2 or 3 years. Eventually, if/when the Equus does come here, it will be too expensive to compete with the Genesis.
 
I don't think Hyundai has anything to lose, and a lot to gain by introducing the Equus. As I stated earlier, it's very cheap to produce a USA legal version. It could be introduced very rapidly and painlessly, and withdrawn just as quickly if it doesn't work out. Having a nice full lineup is not only for actual sales, but good stategy.

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