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Re: Hyundai dealer from another planet [captain2] by backy
Jun 26, 2009 (9:59 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jun 26, 2009 7:41 am)

You changed the subject. We were discussing a Hyundai dealer tacking on an additional markup over MSRP onto the asking price of a Genesis sedan, and then you claimed that this had never been done before with a Hyundai. Now you have switched to whether any Hyundai has ever sold in the USA for MSRP or more.
 
But if you are interested to see reports on Hyundais selling for MSRP sometime during Hyundai's 25 year history in the US, rather than discussing the Genesis sedan, there's several years' worth of buying reports in the various "Prices Paid" discussions for Hyundais here in Town Hall. As a hint, look for times when a new model was introduced, e.g. early 2005 when the all-new Sonata came out, or in 2007 when the Veracruz debuted, or in 2008 when the Genesis sedan first came out.
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Re: Hyundai dealer from another planet [backy] by captain2
Jun 26, 2009 (10:17 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jun 26, 2009 9:59 am)

you claimed that this had never been done before with a Hyundai. Now you have switched to whether any Hyundai has ever sold in the USA for MSRP or more.
Is your understanding of the King's English different than mine? Same subject - a Hyundai product selling with some sort of ADM
So your telling me that the Sonata sold at or above MSRP in 06 or the Veracruz in 07? Not to anybody with an IQ (or credit rating) above their body temperature! Don't believe that the Genesis generally did either, judging by the 'prices paid' reports in these forums - and that, as I said earlier, would be the one vehicle that Hyundai has ever made where it might be possible.
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Re: Hyundai dealer from another planet [captain2] by backy
Jun 26, 2009 (10:23 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jun 26, 2009 10:17 am)

A Hyundai with an ADM sticker on it (your original discussion point) and a Hyundai SELLING for MSRP or more (your new discussion point) are two different things. So I guess my understanding of the King's English is different than yours.
 
Why is it so difficult to believe that someone would pay MSRP or more for the all-new 2006 Sonata or all-new 2007 Veracruz or all-new Genesis? If someone would pay $3000 over MSRP for a widely available appliance car like the Avalon, why not a Hyundai?
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OFFICIALLY DONE by poodog13
Jun 26, 2009 (10:29 am)
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Ok folks, it's painfully obvious that a certain member of this message board has a strong disdain for the product/company/sales people/country of origin associated with the topic the rest of us are interested in discussing. This opinion is unlikely to be influenced through contrary experience, rationalization, or dissection of language and/or phrasology.
 
The resulting back-and-forth has completely disrailed any dialogue and subsequent insights that might be gained if in fact the conversation returns to the Hyundai Genesis itself. Might I suggest that the rest of us disregard comments from this point further that arent' specifically focused on the vehicle itself?
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Re: Overvaluing the Dealer Staff [poodog13] by mcribb
Jun 26, 2009 (10:32 am)
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Replying to: poodog13 (Jun 26, 2009 7:00 am)

You have a few salesman who know the product. Most are stupid morons. I been to many dealerships and as them a question about a certain car or truck and they have to look at the sticker on the car. To me, if you sell a car then you should know everything about it. The only thing most know is if it has a engine and 4 wheels.
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Re: Hyundai dealer from another planet [backy] by captain2
Jun 26, 2009 (10:40 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jun 26, 2009 10:23 am)

If someone would pay $3000 over MSRP for a widely available appliance car like the Avalon, why not a Hyundai?
that's is what I'm asking because even with the Genesis I don't think this is happening. No matter.
BTW that 'appliance' Avalon will blow the doors off of anything that Hyundai makes (save for the V8) and STILL have some market value after driving it a few years.
Eat your heart out.
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Re: Overvaluing the Dealer Staff [mcribb] by bobad
Jun 26, 2009 (10:59 am)
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Replying to: mcribb (Jun 26, 2009 10:32 am)

You have a few salesman who know the product. Most are stupid morons. I been to many dealerships and as them a question about a certain car or truck and they have to look at the sticker on the car.
 
I don't care if my salesman is a moron, as long as he is smart enough to fetch me some keys and coffee. I think those who depend on salesmen are the morons.
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Genesis is changing the game... by sergio19
Jun 26, 2009 (11:05 am)
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I love my Genesis and I've had it for 3 Months now!
What a GREAT car...It's amazing how much car you get for it's price.
I'm in Canada and paid $48,995 plus tax and am in LOVE with this car!
 
OTHER Manufactures must be raping their end-users by a mile!
 
I can't believe how many people look/stop me and ask what car is that. It's priceless.
Just yesterday, someone driving next to me asked me to open my window and asked me if it was a Bentley! That's the 5th time it has happened.
I love the look of their faces when I tell them it's a Hyundai. I swear one day I'm going to drive with a camera and film it!
 
The reactions are stunning!
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Re: Hyundai dealer from another planet [captain2] by tjc78
Jun 26, 2009 (11:07 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jun 26, 2009 10:40 am)

BTW that 'appliance' Avalon will blow the doors off of anything that Hyundai makes (save for the V8)
 
Captain... as much as I do like my Genesis I so miss the 2GR engine. The 3.8 in the Hyundai is ok but the 2GR just blows it away. Much more willing to rev, and more refined. However, the tranny still has a bit of mind of its own just like my Avalon did.
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Re: Hyundai dealer from another planet [captain2] by colloquor
Jun 26, 2009 (12:59 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jun 26, 2009 10:40 am)

captain2 - The Avalon will eat the Genesis' V6 lunch, until your Avalon's VVT oil supply line "blows its cork" like many have, and you will be sitting along side the road with a blown engine. You'll be looking at a significant repair bill.
 
Make sure you have the updated VVT oil supply line (without the rubber intermediate portion) from Toyota, otherwise it's an accident waiting for a place to happen, and it means $$$$ out of pocket as Toyota typically doesn't cover the cost of the new engine.

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