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Re: Hyundai dealer from another planet [backy] by captain2
Jun 25, 2009 (1:28 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jun 25, 2009 12:44 pm)

try actually SHOPPING for a Hyundai
I did - and was very disappointed. Greeted by a 20+ know nothing that couldn't talk about the relative attributes of the Azera I asked to see and only could talk 'intelligently' about how much cheaper it was vs. the Avalon I drove in with. His associate on the sales floor that afternoon was even worse, and I think he was 'sales manager' for the day. Seriously, all they wanted to talk about was price, thinking, I guess, that everything must be qualified in such a manner. A big city dealer BTW but is Hyundai really the training ground for nubie car salespeople, because they sure as hell don't train them. IMO, it is easy to sell something when it is the cheapest, much more difficult when it isn't - because then, heaven forbid, you might actually have to know something about what you are trying to sell.
 How, I ask, can that same caliber of salesperson then sell something called a Genesis that really does offer some things worth talking about?
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Re: Hyundai dealer from another planet [allmet33] by captain2
Jun 25, 2009 (1:41 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Jun 25, 2009 12:19 pm)

Why does any Hyundai vehicle, especially the Genesis have to command a premium price in order to improve the Hyundai name
So I guess you don't think that anything that can be sold for more than what a mfgr is asking for it - says anything about that company's ability to produce such products. Talk about dumb?
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Re: Hyundai dealer from another planet [captain2] by bobad
Jun 25, 2009 (1:46 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jun 25, 2009 1:28 pm)

How, I ask, can that same caliber of salesperson then sell something called a Genesis that really does offer some things worth talking about?
 
If you're more educated about the car than the salesmen (which is not as unusual as you think unusual) just ignore him. Look at the car, and take it for a drive. Don't get side tracked. You're not buying a salesman, you're buying a car.
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Re: Hyundai dealer from another planet [captain2] by backy
Jun 25, 2009 (3:30 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jun 25, 2009 1:28 pm)

OK then. Since you have shopped for a Hyundai we can group you in with the people incapable of understanding things like ADM.
 
Do some shopping at other dealerships and you'll find incompetence is, unfortunately, not limited to a few salespeople at Hyundai. And you'll find competent, even exceptional sales people exist at Hyundai dealers. We have discussed here how HMA has provided special training on the Genesis for its dealerships. Just because you didn't talk with one of those people doesn't mean Hyundai doesn't train their salespeople or that all of them are incompetent.
 
If I made my car buying decisions based on whether I had ever talked with an incompetent sales person, I would probably be riding a moped now.
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Re: VERY interesting!!! [mickeyrom] by colloquor
Jun 25, 2009 (3:47 pm)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Jun 25, 2009 9:57 am)

Here's a fact that opened my eyes on Hyundai, and later Kia. One of my business colleague's husband is a Toyota Service Manager at one of the larger Toyota dealers in southern FL. He and and wife drive a Hyundai (Azera) and a Kia (Optima) respectively. Previously to moving to Florida 14 years ago, he was a Master Technician at a BMW dealership on Long Island. I find this most interesting. I wonder how he explains all of this to his employer?
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Re: Hyundai dealer from another planet [bobad] by tjc78
Jun 25, 2009 (4:20 pm)
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Replying to: bobad (Jun 25, 2009 12:42 pm)

Genesis shoppers are experiencing "market adjustments" at dealers because sales are outstripping demand, not because corporate is trying to cash in.
 
????? I don't know, I still see none on the road here in south jersey (near Philly). The dealer I bought mine from has plenty to choose from (at least 15-20) and the same ones were there when I picked up my plates two weeks later.
 
There were no marketing adjustments of any kind and the first offer was $100 over invoice and I easily brought them down to a couple hundred under, plus $1000 rebate, plus 1.44% interest on the lease. They can't be selling that great!
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Re: Hyundai dealer from another planet [tjc78] by bobad
Jun 25, 2009 (4:58 pm)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Jun 25, 2009 4:20 pm)

There were no marketing adjustments of any kind and the first offer was $100 over invoice and I easily brought them down to a couple hundred under, plus $1000 rebate, plus 1.44% interest on the lease. They can't be selling that great!
 
They don't have to be selling great numbers, just more than they are allotted.
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Re: Hyundai dealer from another planet [tjc78] by obyone
Jun 25, 2009 (8:08 pm)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Jun 25, 2009 4:20 pm)

ADM is ADM. All they are doing is looking to hook a fish. If anyone pays the ADM more power to the dealer. The manufacturer doesn't care what the dealer does as they have already financed their allocation. In my area, I've looked at the weekly ads of the Hyundai dealers and noticed none of them advertised the Genesis as of last week. No clue why.
 
A question for the owners. Are the badging screwed down or held by double stick tape? I like to debadge all my vehicles and was wondering if that would be possible.
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Re: Hyundai dealer from another planet [obyone] by tjc78
Jun 26, 2009 (3:08 am)
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Replying to: obyone (Jun 25, 2009 8:08 pm)

I've looked at the weekly ads of the Hyundai dealers and noticed none of them advertised the Genesis as of last week. No clue why.
 
For their advertising dollars they will get much more return running an ad on Sonatas, Elantras and Santa Fe's.
 
Are the badging screwed down or held by double stick tape?
 
I am afraid you are not gonna like this answer... the "H" on the deck lid is taped on but has 2 studs that stick through. So you would have to have it filled and painted (not worth it IMO) However, you could order a wing logo like many other owners did. I am not sure about the "Genesis" badge on the lower right of the trunk.
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Re: Hyundai dealer from another planet [tjc78] by sheltonzz
Jun 26, 2009 (3:53 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Jun 26, 2009 3:08 am)

Not exactly correct. The wing badge ordered on E Bay comes with points that match the trunk and double sided tape alreay in place. The H can be removed fairly easy but I made the dealer remove mine and as part of the deal. Of copurse, you WANT to leave the genesis badge on the trunk.

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