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Replying to: killerbunny (Apr 07, 2007 5:46 am) Let's say, Sonata is 5%~10% cheaper than Camry. Let Genesis be 5%~10% cheaper than the V8 RWD Toyota (LS460), subtract another 10% for not using an up-market brand name. That will still be at least $50,000 for the starting MSRP. 1) It's not meant to compete with the Camry. As noted, the Sonata is. 2) The BH (codename, no official name has been given yet) will likely start under $30K in the US, with the V8 version estimated at low-to-mid 30s range. 3) Feature-wise, what you see is what you get. I've been told everything listed in the PR would be available on the production model next year (e.g. Nav, Xenon). Also, Hyundai will likely become to first non-luxury nameplate to offer HD radio. 4) Good news for the power fans - the V8 will put out a lot more than 300 horses, Hyundai has always estimated conservatively. Upwards of 340 or more is possibly a slightly precise estimate. 5) Few changes in the front and the rear, otherwise, this is the car coming to the showroom next year. 6) MSRP and comparably speaking, the Sonata is a good 10%-20% cheaper, depending on trims, packages and options. |
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If the Genesis is supposed to start "well under" $30k (V6 version), what happens to Axera? Is this Azera's replacement? If the V6 Genesis is in the high $20's, the V8 would be $5-7k more? Around 33-35k? I don't have a problem with Hyundai building a luxury marque. If they are meeting/exceeding sales goals for the former XG350/Azera, then go for it. Genesis is a better name for a company than a car. They will DEFINITELY need another vehicle to start a marque with. I'd build a coupe.  Personally, I'd get people comfortable with considering Hyundai as a 1st-rate full-line marque, which most people haven't realized yet. I don't see what the rush is?  But now might be the time to pounce! Acura continues to struggle, and Infiniti is working on a very slow upswing. Lincoln is all but dead. Audi isn't setting the world on fire, after countless opportunities. I think they're getting ahead of themselves, and should wait until the Fall of 2010, at the earliest. And I agree, producing a couple of studly models for the NAIAS, and announcing in the Fall a new brand will emerge is definitely the way to do this, as Lexus did. If Lexus writes a book, you should tear out a page or two, no?  DrFill
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Replying to: paisan (Apr 07, 2007 2:59 pm) Rocky |
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Replying to: gpk (Apr 07, 2007 6:39 pm) Rocky |
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Replying to: drfill (Apr 07, 2007 9:36 pm) Rocky |
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Replying to: paisan (Apr 07, 2007 7:26 pm) Rumor has it that the next Acura RL will have both. Honda has been famous for doing more with less but I digress. No I feel that Hyundai is good for everyone involved in the auto industry. Will the Genesis be the end all? Thats irrelevant. The point is just the car itself forces Honda into RWD v-8 scene and for me that is a good thing. Content wise that is good for all consumers. As far as the domestics I wonder what if anything can save them? You kinda have to stop shooting yourself in the foot like GM and Ford are famous for. Chrysler is at last rites along with mitsubishi. I remember reading in The Wall Street Journal that Toyota/Honda/Hyundai/Nissan RD departments are huge compared to GM/F/C. That says a lot right there as well. You cannot remain competitive in the auto industry by sitting still. The only segment where they try to compete is in huge SUV's and Full size truck segment. Which is losing them market share and not really helping them at all. In the town where I live the amount of Hyundai and Kia's on the road is constantly increasing. |
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Replying to: drfill (Apr 07, 2007 9:36 pm) If Hyundai creates a luxury marque it won't be for some time.
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Apr 08, 2007 5:25 am) I think in a decade or so the Hyundai, name could be mentioned in the same breath as Lexus, and Kia, could build a reputation to be mentioned in the same breath as Toyota. Rocky |
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Replying to: rockylee (Apr 08, 2007 5:29 am) Possible. |
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Apr 08, 2007 5:33 am) I think Hyundai, will go slightly more up market in the future starting with the Genesis. I still think it will be a very long time before we see a $55K+ Hyundai Rocky |
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