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Replying to: joe97 (Jan 14, 2009 6:23 pm) Amazing what can happen when chasing the allmighty dollar? Perhaps... The Genesis really had no competition (the VW Jetta TDI, and the Ford Flex- 2nd and 3rd) but at least the NACOTY is based on some non 'subsidized' auto journalist opinions. What's really impressive? Not something 'minor' like urban wheels and the limited choices that we had for the 2009MY - but somebody not subsidized like CR rating it ordinally higher than a number of other really fine 'upscale' sedans (incl. Hyundai's own Azera) and are priced similarily - or FTM statistics that show that the Genesis is sitting on lots a comparatively short period of time before they are sold. 'Urban Wheels' award gimmee a break! Why not just pay somebody we've heard of - like JDP - for some trumped up award like 'the highest initial quality and initial satisfaction for all sub $35k RWD boulevard cruisers that come with leather interiors, standard zoned air conditioning, heated seats, 300 hp, have a computer 'mouse' and lots of other available doodads - or whatever?' A class of one, you say - exactly the point.
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Replying to: captain2 (Jan 15, 2009 1:35 pm) The Genesis really had no competition Right, the short list was just bunch of terrible cars  Audi A4 BMW 1 Series Cadillac CTS-V Dodge Challenger Ford Flex Honda Fit Hyundai Genesis Jaguar XF Lincoln MKS Mazda 6 Nissan GT-R Pontiac G8 Toyota Venza Volkswagen Jetta TDI
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Replying to: joe97 (Jan 15, 2009 4:50 pm) why would you think it is an underdog - just because it happens to be a Hyundai, perhaps? An attitude like that will only serve to perpetuate Hyundai's image problems - is there some reason that you think that Hyundai shouldn't be able to produce a good car? Of course they can - and they have - all it takes is a little commitment and some deep pockets. The listing of your 2009 models really has limited choices if you are defining a 'car of the year' as something truly 'ground up' new which the Genesis, of course, is and many of these other candidates aren't. What vehicles on this list are not simple rebadges, simple updates, and/or 'crossovers' not really 'cars' at all. Just the 1 series (maybe) and the GTR ? Not at all that the Genesis isn't deserving of many of the accolades it is getting, only that 2009 is and will be a bad year for cars, the Genesis being one of the few available bright spots on a rather bleak horizon.
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Replying to: captain2 (Jan 16, 2009 6:51 am) 2008 - Malibu, CTS, Accord 2007 - Aura, Fit, Camry 2006 - Civic, Fusion, Solstice The first model listed in each year took home the award. You mean to tell me they were, and I quote "something truly 'ground up'"?
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Replying to: sheltonzz (Jan 13, 2009 8:25 am) The nest could have been there from your place or from time on the dealer's lot. 10+ years ago I had a car where I found the bag of gumdrops I left on the front seat empty. Looked more carefully and saw a little mouse poop. I set a trap on the passenger floorboards and the next morning I had caught the intruder. Fast forward a month or so and I go to get my oil changed. The technician comes into the waiting room and says "Sir, could you come take a look at this?" He leads me to the front of the car, and points to the air filter... one of those rectangular ones that lays horizontally... there are a half dozen gum drops and a couple of other candies on sitting on top of the filter... We'd found the storage vault! Good thing the little guy didn't decide to chew the filter material... that could have been ugly... |
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Replying to: joe97 (Jan 16, 2009 8:21 pm) of course not, but this only goes to illustrate how remarkable the Genesis is in that regard. As I said, of that original listing of nominees you posted , and other than the rather unavailable GTR, there is not one of them that is truly 'new' or remarkable in a COTY respect. If that is the competition, the 2009 Genesis should 'win' every COTY it is entered in, simply because of what it is, and what its competitors are not....
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Replying to: captain2 (Jan 19, 2009 2:09 pm) I don't know why you can't just give credit when it's due; of course, it's always when comes to Hyundai, like your position the Genesis won because limited choices
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Replying to: joe97 (Jan 19, 2009 4:54 pm) |
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Very nice. Now Hyundai will have to revise its dealer model if this car makes it to the US: http://www.autoblog.com/2009/01/23/spy-shots-more-revealing-look-at-hyundai-equu- s-could-it-be-u/ |
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I will roll over the 15,000 mile mark this week. I have been updating my impressions of my fully loaded V6 Genesis at various intervals. First, let me get the one (big) problem that I have had out of the way. I am the one that had several posts related to a persistent battery drain problem that occurred every time I parked the car for more than three days. Long story short ... it turned out to be a defective switch that gets depressed upon closing the hood. I assume that it turns various things on or off (engine compartment light, security system, etc.). The technician believes that was the problem and that it is fixed. Ironically, I have not had an occasion to leave the car parked for more than two days since they achieved this "fix". In spite of my frustration with the problem described above, I am still a big fan of the Genesis. It is not perfect (what car is?), but it does so many things well! In fact, if you go back to my previous updates, you will see below that I am becoming more impressed with the car as the miles roll by. Here goes: 1. I still think the V6 comes close to matching the V8 Genesis that I drove about six weeks ago. It has the same 0 to 60 of six seconds flat and the same 14.5 second quarter-mile time (per the March 2009 issue of Car and Driver). I was pleased to see that confirmation of my having suggested in one of my posts that the V6 appeared to hang with the V8 in any kind of normal driving. I keep repeating how well the six-speed transmission is mated with the V6 and how powerful the engine is for a V6. I have taken three trips over the steepest parts of the Blue Ridge and Smokey mountains and this thing is so torquey that it never has to drop down to 5th gear to keep pace at 75 to 85 MPH. Also, the transmission shows no symptoms of "gear hunting" like most six cylinders do on long, steep inclines to offset their lack of power and torque. I am convinced that Hyundai's rating of 290 HP is purposely understated to keep buyers from thinking it is too close to the 375 HP V8 version. 2. I find myself liking the ride characteristics better all the time. I was initially fairly critical of how "jiggly" it was over undulating road services and pavement seams. It is very stiff over speed bumps and rough pavement but out on the boulevard, it is a dream. 3. My fuel mileage remains good but somewhat inconsistent. Never-the-less, it always achieves the EPA rating of 27 on the highway. It usually gets a mile or two better than that but it sure does not like fuel containing ethanol. Don't get me started on that crap again! 4. Dare I repeat that I am still unhappy that Hyundai has calibrated the speedometer to overstate the actual speed? Are you listening Hyundai? Don't give me the old "it is within tolerance" jargon! If you are going to boast about how much technology went into the Genesis, don't act like it is acceptable to overstate the speed by as much as 5%. 5. I find it disappointing that the last two cars I owned had tire pressure monitors that gave readouts for each tire giving the PSI for each. The genesis just tells you when one tire is low. 6. The Lexicon is the absolute best audio system I have ever seen in an automobile. In summary, I am trying to give an objective review from my perspective. I hate the posts from those that are fanatical either way, some claiming the car is perfect, and some going on and on about what a piece of junk it is. It is neither ... but in balance, it is a very competitive luxury car that leans toward being sporty as well. |
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