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Re: service [sheltonzz] by sandy25
Jan 13, 2009 (3:05 pm)
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Replying to: sheltonzz (Jan 12, 2009 6:50 pm)

I agree with you about $20,000 donuts. Also, hope there was a Rat Provison in the Hyundaiu Warranty.
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More Car of the Year by joe97
Jan 14, 2009 (6:23 pm)
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http://news.prnewswire.com/ViewContent.aspx?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/01-13-2009- /0004954324&EDATE=
 
Urban Wheel Awards:
 
Car of the Year
Hyundai Genesis
 
And, photo of the North American Car of the Year Award - book it
 
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Re: More Car of the Year [joe97] by captain2
Jan 15, 2009 (1:35 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (Jan 14, 2009 6:23 pm)

Urban Wheel Awards - now that is really really something to aspire to - isn't it? Curious, anybody on this forum ever hear of this 'organization' before this - honestly?
 Amazing what can happen when chasing the allmighty dollar? Perhaps...
The Genesis really had no competition (the VW Jetta TDI, and the Ford Flex- 2nd and 3rd) but at least the NACOTY is based on some non 'subsidized' auto journalist opinions.
 What's really impressive? Not something 'minor' like urban wheels and the limited choices that we had for the 2009MY - but somebody not subsidized like CR rating it ordinally higher than a number of other really fine 'upscale' sedans (incl. Hyundai's own Azera) and are priced similarily - or FTM statistics that show that the Genesis is sitting on lots a comparatively short period of time before they are sold.
 'Urban Wheels' award gimmee a break! Why not just pay somebody we've heard of - like JDP - for some trumped up award like 'the highest initial quality and initial satisfaction for all sub $35k RWD boulevard cruisers that come with leather interiors, standard zoned air conditioning, heated seats, 300 hp, have a computer 'mouse' and lots of other available doodads - or whatever?' A class of one, you say - exactly the point.
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Re: More Car of the Year [captain2] by joe97
Jan 15, 2009 (4:50 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jan 15, 2009 1:35 pm)

So long as you are done venting, let's talk about how you can't even appreciate an underdog winning an award, NA car of the year nontheless:
 
The Genesis really had no competition
 
Right, the short list was just bunch of terrible cars
 
Audi A4
BMW 1 Series
Cadillac CTS-V
Dodge Challenger
Ford Flex
Honda Fit
Hyundai Genesis
Jaguar XF
Lincoln MKS
Mazda 6
Nissan GT-R
Pontiac G8
Toyota Venza
Volkswagen Jetta TDI
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Re: More Car of the Year [joe97] by captain2
Jan 16, 2009 (6:51 am)
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Replying to: joe97 (Jan 15, 2009 4:50 pm)

appreciate an underdog winning
why would you think it is an underdog - just because it happens to be a Hyundai, perhaps? An attitude like that will only serve to perpetuate Hyundai's image problems - is there some reason that you think that Hyundai shouldn't be able to produce a good car? Of course they can - and they have - all it takes is a little commitment and some deep pockets.
 The listing of your 2009 models really has limited choices if you are defining a 'car of the year' as something truly 'ground up' new which the Genesis, of course, is and many of these other candidates aren't. What vehicles on this list are not simple rebadges, simple updates, and/or 'crossovers' not really 'cars' at all. Just the 1 series (maybe) and the GTR ?
 Not at all that the Genesis isn't deserving of many of the accolades it is getting, only that 2009 is and will be a bad year for cars, the Genesis being one of the few available bright spots on a rather bleak horizon.
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Re: More Car of the Year [captain2] by joe97
Jan 16, 2009 (8:21 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jan 16, 2009 6:51 am)

So by winning the car of the year, your position is "something truly 'ground up'" - and the Genesis is, no doubt...but is that really how it usually work? Let's have a look at the recent finalists from the past few years:
 
2008 - Malibu, CTS, Accord
2007 - Aura, Fit, Camry
2006 - Civic, Fusion, Solstice
 
The first model listed in each year took home the award. You mean to tell me they were, and I quote "something truly 'ground up'"?
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Re: service [sheltonzz] by bksward
Jan 18, 2009 (5:46 am)
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Replying to: sheltonzz (Jan 13, 2009 8:25 am)

With chewed wires, I'd bet on the rodents. Squirrels normally nest up in trees. Rat or mouse would be much more likely.
 
The nest could have been there from your place or from time on the dealer's lot.
 
10+ years ago I had a car where I found the bag of gumdrops I left on the front seat empty. Looked more carefully and saw a little mouse poop. I set a trap on the passenger floorboards and the next morning I had caught the intruder.
 
Fast forward a month or so and I go to get my oil changed. The technician comes into the waiting room and says "Sir, could you come take a look at this?" He leads me to the front of the car, and points to the air filter... one of those rectangular ones that lays horizontally... there are a half dozen gum drops and a couple of other candies on sitting on top of the filter... We'd found the storage vault!
 
Good thing the little guy didn't decide to chew the filter material... that could have been ugly...
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Re: More Car of the Year [joe97] by captain2
Jan 19, 2009 (2:09 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (Jan 16, 2009 8:21 pm)

You mean to tell me they were, and I quote "something truly 'ground up'"?
of course not, but this only goes to illustrate how remarkable the Genesis is in that regard. As I said, of that original listing of nominees you posted , and other than the rather unavailable GTR, there is not one of them that is truly 'new' or remarkable in a COTY respect. If that is the competition, the 2009 Genesis should 'win' every COTY it is entered in, simply because of what it is, and what its competitors are not....
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Re: More Car of the Year [captain2] by joe97
Jan 19, 2009 (4:54 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jan 19, 2009 2:09 pm)

In your original statement, however, you contended the available choices were limited ("bad year"). Be that as it may, now you are saying that was the same case the last three years? When we will we see a good year then?
 
I don't know why you can't just give credit when it's due; of course, it's always when comes to Hyundai, like your position the Genesis won because limited choices
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Re: More Car of the Year [joe97] by xj220
Jan 20, 2009 (11:57 am)
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Replying to: joe97 (Jan 19, 2009 4:54 pm)

Don't feed the troll. It just makes him hungry for more attention.

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