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Re: [allmet33] by captain2
Jan 05, 2009 (10:40 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Jan 05, 2009 10:08 am)

dictionary definitions mean little in the world of perceptions.
Tell somebody you bought a BMW for 50 or 60 large and folks understand you have spent a lot of (or even too much) money for something that is likely the one of the best. Same can be said for Lexus, Infiniti, and MB to slightly lesser degrees.
Tell them you spent 15 or 20 grand less than that on a Hyundai then they think you should be committed. That is a unfortunate (and probably unfair) reality, without spending a whole lot of time needlessly looking things up in Webster's.
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Re: [allmet33] by backy
Jan 05, 2009 (10:48 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Jan 05, 2009 10:28 am)

About how CR groups cars... the Genesis is grouped with the "$30-45,000" cars. That grouping includes cars I think most would agree are not luxury cars, e.g. Avalon, Passat, Maxima, Azera, Amanti, Legacy, Saab 9-3, Charger V8, and Grand Marquis. OTOH, it also includes the likes of:
 
Infiniti G35
Lexus ES and IS
Acura TL
Cadillac CTS
BMW 3-Series
MB C Class
Lincoln MKZ
 
and of course now the Genesis.
 
CR groups cars for comparison based on price. Not whether they are "luxury" cars or not.
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Re: [captain2] by backy
Jan 05, 2009 (10:52 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jan 05, 2009 10:40 am)

Tell them you spent 15 or 20 grand less than that on a Hyundai then they think you should be committed.
 
The people who would tell me that would not be my friends or people I respect, so I wouldn't care about their opinion anyway. Now, if those folks want to make up the difference in price for me so that I can have a "real" luxury car experience that they won't turn up their noses at, great, I'll take their money. Otherwise it's none of their business what I choose to drive, just as it's none of my business what they choose to drive.
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Re: [captain2] by allmet33
Jan 05, 2009 (10:52 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jan 05, 2009 10:40 am)

dictionary definitions mean little in the world of perceptions.
 
Ahhhhh, but without a clear cut definition of the word...you wouldn't know where to begin. The definition is the foundation upon which the perception is built my friend.
 
Now you jump from using the 1-Series as your example and jump up to talking about BMW's costing $50K plus. Make up your mind! I'll give you this much, a neighbor may question why you paid $40K for a Hyundai...until they actually get in it and either drive it or get a ride in it. Then they'll be more like, "Wow...you got all that for $40K!!!"
 
Obviously with the sales of the Genesis keeping up with mid-level premium brand entries, one wouldn't think purchasing one would equate to being committed. There have been plenty that have questioned it...that is until they actually go and sit in a Genesis and take it for a ride. There are postings in the Genesis review section on Edmunds where folks initially didn't have the Genesis on their list until someone told them they need to check it out and some even end up purchasing one even though it wasn't their initial target.
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Re: [backy] by allmet33
Jan 05, 2009 (10:55 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 05, 2009 10:48 am)

Thank you Backy...that's exactly the point I was making to the Captain. I'm starting to think he works with some sort of media outlet because he's taking a little bit of information he finds and twists it to suit his argument!
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Re: [backy] by captain2
Jan 05, 2009 (11:25 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 05, 2009 10:52 am)

The people who would tell me that would not be my friends or people I respect, so I wouldn't care about their opinion anyway.
it might surprise you (and allmet) to know that I happen to agree with you - but I think you'll admit that for a majority of the autobuyers out there - Hyundai doesn't make cars as expensive (or as good) as the Genesis.
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Re: [captain2] by allmet33
Jan 05, 2009 (11:32 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jan 05, 2009 11:25 am)

Well...based on your postings, I would find it very hard to believe that you actually agree.
 
Hyundai doesn't make cars as expensive (or as good) as the Genesis.
 
Well...they do and that is why people change their mind when they actually take the time to get in a Genesis and see what it's all about. I can't tell you how many times I get into car conversations from those that don't even own a Hyundai vehicle of any kind and they are quick to say, "Have you seen that new Hyundai....the Genesis!"
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Re: [allmet33] by cviz821
Jan 05, 2009 (12:31 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Jan 05, 2009 11:32 am)

Everyone who has riden my Genesis stated that if the Hyundai badges were removed they would swear that the car was a BMW. A few of my friends though the car was a Lexus.
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Re: [cviz821] by allmet33
Jan 05, 2009 (12:47 pm)
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Replying to: cviz821 (Jan 05, 2009 12:31 pm)

Again...a point I'm trying to make to the Captain. If they hadn't taken that ride in your Genesis, they would probably think otherwise. The Captain makes all his contentions based on his idea of what Hyundai is and what he reads in various publications. He has yet to actually get in a Genesis and take a spin. That is why he can't understand why my contention is that the Genesis IS a luxury sedan.
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Hyundai really came thru for me!!! by regretful2
Jan 05, 2009 (2:13 pm)
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I am happy to report that Hyundai Motor America helped me resolve an issue I encountered with my brand new Genesis (please refer to my earlier postings) in a way that makes me completely satisified with the resolution of my problem. If Hyundai will continue to back its products up the way they did in my case I can anticipate the Genesis (and other Hyundai vehicles) being very sucessful products for years to come. Thank you Hyundai!!!

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