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Replying to: backy (Jan 03, 2009 8:55 pm) |
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Has anyone compared the handling of the Genesis, Chrysler 300C, Pontiac G8, and BMW 5 series? From the "official" reviews, I get the impression that the Genesis handles more like a G8 than a Lexus LS or even GS, but the forums trend the other way. Suspension metrics include: 1. feedback through steering wheel (numb?) 2. on-center steering precision (straight-line wander?) 3. suspension stiffness 4. suspension travel limits (hit the stops on rough roads?) 5. damping (certain speed/road combination induce bouncing?) I'm wondering if the "official" reviewers concluded that the Genesis steering was not numb and therefore was not like a Lexus. |
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| I am trying to find out if there is a short cut method to getting at the oil filter that seems to be located under a large plate under the belly of the engine. I have always changed my own oil but this car seems to have many fasteners holding this plate on making this job a real pain | |
| Well I went out and removed the shroud under engine on my 4.6 not as bad as I thought, 15 min. maybe. About 8 hex screws and one plastic phillips screw hold up the shroud. Filter cap is a strong plastic with o ring, comes with the filter. Drained around 7 quarts added about the same and no issues. Glad to have changed oil at 1500 miles original factory oil seemed very thin (break-in oil?) | |
| The Feb 09 Consumer Reports 'Upscale sedans' article tested the Genesis against the Acura TL, Nissan Maxima, Pontiac G8, Lincoln MKS, and Jaguar XF. The Genesis was rated higher than all these other models tested. The editors liked the smooth and refined powertrain, good brakes, and the quiet, spacious interior. They also mentioned that the handling is secure, but not sporty and that the steering is responsive but has little feedback. In their tests the car was somewhat nervous over small bumps. The 3.8 litre got 21 MPG overall in their mixed driving tests. The vehicle reliability rating could not yet be determined due to insufficient data. | |
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Replying to: colegar (Jan 01, 2009 4:14 pm) |
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Replying to: captain2 (Dec 30, 2008 2:37 pm) By definition, luxury is a condition of abundance or great ease and comfort. Something adding to the pleasure or comfort but not absolutely necessary. Luxrious, by definition is marked by or given to self-indulgence. Of, relating to or marked by LUXURY. Which...according to the definitions of those two words, the Genesis certainly fits. Even though it's made by...HYUNDAI!!!  So...now you're saying if BMW produced a car similar to a base model Corolla...it would be a luxury car just because it has BMW on it? ROTFL I'm sorry, but THAT is hilarious. If you can't tell if a car is a luxury car without knowing who made it, then maybe you need to turn in your car junkie credentials because it they are going to waste!
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Replying to: allmet33 (Jan 05, 2009 8:46 am) maybe so - but in that case I'm not the only one - in that quite favorable review of the Genesis in the latest CR the Genesis is grouped with 'upscale cars' like the Avalon, Azera, Lucerne etc. NOT as a 'luxury sedan' . This despite the review itself talking a whole bunch about how 'luxurious' the Genesis actually is. Obviously has a whole lot to do with price and the badge. You can rail on all you want about the all the available doodads but IF the Genesis is ever going to graduate into that 'luxury' league it does need a higher price and a new place to be sold. And you are right - this whole perception thing has little to do with the inherent qualities of any particular car. Never has, likely never will
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Replying to: captain2 (Jan 05, 2009 8:59 am) Now you're back-tracking because the IS, ES, 3-Series (some), C-Class, G's and such cars all cost less than the Genesis, so none of them can be luxury cars based on what you said. So now...if the Genesis cost $50K, THEN and only then could it be a luxury car! Dude...it's like you're treading water with your hands & feet tied together!
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Replying to: allmet33 (Jan 05, 2009 8:46 am) basically yes, but you don't seem to understand why. IT is the fact that BMW doesn't produce any car intended for the masses (like the Corolla) and does generally bless all its cars with a degree of engineering acumen and sophistication not found elsewhere that qualifies even the lowest trim 1 series as a 'luxury car'. Nothing to do with smelly leather, quiet boulevard rides, fancy arss steros systems etc. etc. This, perhaps more than anything else, is what differentiates the true 'luxury car' mfgrs. from the Chevys, the Fords, the Toyotas, the Hyundais etc etc. of the world Would a 135 with roll-up windows still be a luxury car, certainly, but only because the manufacturer would not allow it any other way.
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