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#4044 of 5687 Re: [captain2] by musher51 Jan 02, 2009 (9:21 am)
Replying to: captain2 (Dec 30, 2008 2:18 pm) "Nonetheless, the day that the buyer of the the big genuine luxury sedans like the A6/A8, the E and Ss, the GS and LSs, the 5s and 7s, the Ms etc. start flocking to the Hyundai dealer because they feel it is a better car (or at least a comparable one) is the day that the Genesis is competing with the 'big boys'."   Captain, ol' boy, that day has already arrived. As a Genesis owner for five months & 9000 miles, I've monitored this site occasionally and simply cannot understand why you spend so much time posting about a car that you freely admit you've never driven nor even seen!   Given your obvious yet mysterious preoccupation with this car, I'd recommend spending some time at genesisowners.com, where you will encounter many people that dumped their "big boy" cars for a Genesis...myself included (an '02 530i w/ sport & premium pkgs). While I concede that Genesis has different strengths and weaknesses relative to the 5-series, it's a VERY compelling package, and I have NO regrets about trading in my Bimmer...which, by the way, cost me $22K more than the Genesis SIX YEARS AGO! Badges be damned...HMA has really scored a coup with the Genesis, but it's your perogative to lob spitballs from the sidelines, I guess.
#4045 of 5687 Re: Re that Genesis emblem... [backy] by backy Jan 02, 2009 (12:25 pm)
Replying to: backy (Jan 02, 2009 6:45 am) Somehow the other image I linked to was deleted. I did see it right after I made the post. Very odd. But many odd things have been happening in Town Hall over the past few days. Anyway, here is that other emblem that somewhat resembles the Genesis emblem (I am trying a different image):   Replies to this message: pat (Jan 03, 2009 7:45 pm) backy (Jan 03, 2009 8:55 pm) ericonline (Jan 04, 2009 6:44 am)
#4046 of 5687 2009 Genesis Handles like a couch by drivingjunkie Jan 02, 2009 (3:41 pm)
Well, I got very excited about the prospect of a car with a 375 hp V-8 that looks like it could be a Mercedes or a BMW or a Lexus - well-executed in every view inside and out - and with every conceivable extra known to autodom for $42K out the door.   Two flaws that killed it for me. The suspension is definitely designed for comfort - handling is very mushy - almost like driving a couch through a 30 mph turn onto a side street. The front wheels could not handle the g forces.   The other flaw was the absence of low-end torque. The car eventually gets going but it was much too tame off the line. I wasn't looking to leave rubber - just looking for the grunt to show up a lot earlier than it does.   This said - it's a hell of a car for the money depending on what's important to the owner. Replies to this message: daviderle (Jan 03, 2009 8:51 pm)
#4047 of 5687 Re: First time poster here.... [gbjerke] by houdini1 Jan 02, 2009 (5:49 pm)
Replying to: gbjerke (Dec 31, 2008 6:03 pm) I would suggest at least looking at and driving a cpo, say, 2006 LS 430. These can be had at around $35K with mileage around 30K. You get a Lexus 3 year new car bumper to bumper warranty or up to 100K. Drive it, you'll buy it.   I do have to admit that I drove the Genesis and really, really liked it. People try to compare it to a BMW but that is not what the Genesis is about. It is more of a luxury car, like the LS. Replies to this message: drivingjunkie (Jan 04, 2009 5:09 am)
#4048 of 5687 Re: Re that Genesis emblem... [backy] by pat HOST Jan 03, 2009 (7:45 pm)
Replying to: backy (Jan 02, 2009 12:25 pm) If you are talking about your post at backy, "2009 Hyundai Genesis" #4042, 2 Jan 2009 6:45 am, I see two images in that post, one of which is indeed a Chrysler emblem. Replies to this message: backy (Jan 03, 2009 8:55 pm) ericonline (Jan 04, 2009 6:44 am)
#4049 of 5687 Re: 2009 Genesis Handles like a couch [drivingjunkie] by daviderle Jan 03, 2009 (8:51 pm)
Replying to: drivingjunkie (Jan 02, 2009 3:41 pm) The suspension is definitely designed for comfort - handling is very mushy - almost like driving a couch through a 30 mph turn onto a side street. The front wheels could not handle the g forces.    The other flaw was the absence of low-end torque. The car eventually gets going but it was much too tame off the line. I wasn't looking to leave rubber - just looking for the grunt to show up a lot earlier than it does…   I respectively disagree, one thing to note; tire pressure plays a huge part in the Genesis performance, also after driving the last 2800 plus miles I have discovered that ESC steps in way too early.   Here is how I get ‘performance’ from a standstill and some of my impressions;   1 – Front tire pressure is set to 32 PSI and rear tires to 35 PSI. 2 – I switch the ESC to the off position. 3 – I no longer smash the accelerator any more, rather press the accelerator slowly taking at least two seconds to get to the first gate… 4 – After the first 500 miles the V8 really begun to open up…   It is not as neck snapping as my previous weekend vehicle (2000 TransAM WS6), however traveling in comfort is more than worth the 0.5 seconds in 0-60mph difference …   I agree with you it is not as ‘stiff’ as 5 series but certainly not as mushy as Lexus, and if one takes a 90 angle at 45 mph there is a ‘feeling’ of body roll but the car will preform the maneuver as if it is on rail tracks…. _________
#4050 of 5687 Re: Re that Genesis emblem... [pat] by backy Jan 03, 2009 (8:55 pm)
Replying to: pat (Jan 03, 2009 7:45 pm) That is really weird, because I only see the Hyundai Genesis emblem. But I did see two images immediately after I made the post. That was the first and only time though.   Another weird thing... when I made the second post, I initially tried to embed the same Chrysler emblem image that I used the first time. But it was not visible in the saved post. So I swapped it for a different image, and that one shows up just fine.   As I said, there have been some very strange things happening in Town Hall the past few days... Replies to this message: ericonline (Jan 04, 2009 6:44 am)
#4051 of 5687 Re: First time poster here.... [houdini1] by drivingjunkie Jan 04, 2009 (5:09 am)
Replying to: houdini1 (Jan 02, 2009 5:49 pm) Houdini:   You're absolutely right. Contrary to some auto mag reviews that indicate that the handling is truly sports sedan close - it is a luxury car and a hellavu bargain. Yes, I was comparing it to a BMW and it's unfair but I tried. The thought of saving $22K over a fully equiped 535 or 550 was seductive.   In the end - even though there are few places to really drive like I want - I value the sporty handling.
#4052 of 5687 Re: Re that Genesis emblem... [backy] by ericonline Jan 04, 2009 (6:44 am)
Replying to: backy (Jan 03, 2009 8:55 pm) Backy, I don't see the 2nd image either in your original post. Just a small square with an X in it. Maybe we don't have the correct software add-in to see it?
#4053 of 5687 Handling comparison by pafromfl Jan 04, 2009 (8:36 am)
Has anyone compared the handling of the Genesis, Chrysler 300C, Pontiac G8, and BMW 5 series? From the "official" reviews, I get the impression that the Genesis handles more like a G8 than a Lexus LS or even GS, but the forums trend the other way. Suspension metrics include: 1. feedback through steering wheel (numb?) 2. on-center steering precision (straight-line wander?) 3. suspension stiffness 4. suspension travel limits (hit the stops on rough roads?) 5. damping (certain speed/road combination induce bouncing?) I'm wondering if the "official" reviewers concluded that the Genesis steering was not numb and therefore was not like a Lexus.

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