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#4031 of 5671 Re: Hyundai Genesis - How is it doing so far? [vjkaty] by chuck1 Dec 31, 2008 (10:07 am)
Replying to: vjkaty (Dec 31, 2008 8:40 am) For some of these cars the advertising dollars seems to have fallen off the face of the Earth....
#4032 of 5671 LOL by ricwhite Dec 31, 2008 (4:10 pm)
Hyundai only sold 316 Azeras in November and it looks like it's falling fast. I wonder if the Azera will become extinct and the Genesis line will pick up that market.
#4033 of 5671 Re: First time poster here.... by gbjerke Dec 31, 2008 (6:03 pm)
Replying to: allmet33 (Dec 29, 2008 2:30 pm) I did the original post on above and appreciate the feedback. To answer some of the questions posed..... Someone suggested I look at the GS, Infiniti M and A6 as a comparo. Done before. Before we bought our ES, my wife was all over the GS as it looked great to her. Drove one and she pretty much liked it but drove an ES right after that and the GS went out the window. Believe I mentioned she wanted a soft/quiet ride and the ES was her choice....good deal for me as it saved thousands of $$$. Infiniti?? Nope, too rough riding and not as quiet. You get the drift of all this. As to the Audi, no question, the interior is as fine as you can find and it looks good. However, my son had an A4 which spent more time at the dealership for warranty work than you can imagine so an Audi was out of the question. Another poster mentioned FWD vs. RWD. Understand the benefits of FWD in snow country but I much prefer RWD and here in N. Illinois, we usually don't get that much snow...except for last year and so far this year! To me, that is not an issue. Another was to compare the Genesis to the GS or LS Lexus. I've covered the GS bit and think the LS is probably the finest of cars but the price point is huge as compared to the Genesis and while I would love to have an LS in the garage, it becomes a question of whether it is worth it....dare I say, some 30k difference. It may well be worth it...don't know. Wife also thinks the LS is too big! Bottom line, she wants quiet along with a soft ride and the Genesis we drove hit it on the head and for pricing it competes very well with the ES. One question I posed that was never responded to was the historical dramatic decline in values of the Hyundai nameplate vs. other brands. My fear is that this is a car that should be bought a year from now for a fraction of original sticker. Let's say I go for a 40k Genesis and buy for 36k and in a year I see these cars selling for 20k. That folks, is a HUGE hit in the shorts. This may well not happen but is of concern to me. Thoughts??? Replies to this message: backy (Dec 31, 2008 6:41 pm) blnewto (Dec 31, 2008 7:32 pm) joe97 (Jan 01, 2009 12:23 pm) houdini1 (Jan 02, 2009 5:49 pm) drivingjunkie (Jan 04, 2009 5:09 am)
#4034 of 5671 Re: First time poster here.... [gbjerke] by backy Dec 31, 2008 (6:41 pm)
Replying to: gbjerke (Dec 31, 2008 6:03 pm) It WILL happen. You can buy practically ANY one-year-old luxury car for a HUGE discount off original MSRP or even original purchase price. For example, how about a 2007 525i for $27k? Or a 2008 STS V8 for $22k? So if that thought bothers you, why not wait until next year and pick up a lightly-used Genesis for a fraction of the original sticker? You could probably get one with the Hyundai Certified Warranty, i.e. 10 years bumper-to-bumper coverage.
#4035 of 5671 Re: First time poster here.... [gbjerke] by blnewto Dec 31, 2008 (7:32 pm)
Replying to: gbjerke (Dec 31, 2008 6:03 pm) Sure the Hyundai will depreciate quite a bit more than the Lexus, but if you're eyeing the ES350 you're getting much more car w/ the Genesis. The GS would be a more accurate comparo, as would the Infiniti M. The ES is really just a lux'd out Camry although it is lux'd out quite well So what I'm saying is your Genesis may drop an additional 2-3k off an ES, but you'll still have significantly more car w/ your Genesis IMO. Replies to this message: joe97 (Jan 01, 2009 12:23 pm)
#4036 of 5671 Re: suspension is real defect in design [cviz821] by william77 Jan 01, 2009 (11:09 am)
Replying to: cviz821 (Dec 19, 2008 9:07 am) Unfortunately, I didn't read any threads about the suspension or I would've paid more attention to it. We've had our Genesis w/3.8L engine & Premium Pkg since 12/13 & love every aspect of the car except the exceptionally hard suspension. Our 5 mi. test ride before buying the car was over a country road, across a RR track, onto a stretch of US-101 hwy & back to the dealer. We didn't notice the hard suspension, but looking back, I remember the salesman in the back seat was continually talking about different features, & that was probably distracting.   The problem w/the hard suspension surfaced on our trip over Xmas from the SF Bay area to Orange County & San Diego when we had to travel down & back I-5. Especially in the right lane where the trucks beat-up the road, I felt like I was driving a Jeep Wrangler as the jostling literally caused my upper body to move back & forth as we traveled over the bumps & dips. Unfortunately, the jostling aggravated a back problem, so I’m realizing that, as is, the Genesis isn't the car for us since we drive to S. CA 4-5 times/yr.   I'm going to talk w/the dealer & see if there are any suggestions for improving the ride. I've read the thread in the genesisowners.com website & don't want to put weights in the trunk to help, & am hesitant to reduce air pressure to soften the ride, which in turn would also reduce MPG & tire life. Fortunately, I was going to sell my old car to my nephew & deliver it in Feb. Now I can keep that if the suspension problem doesn’t get resolved, & sell the Genesis, unfortunate both because it’s a great car except for the suspension, & even w/only ~700 miles on it, it’ll cost us some $.
#4037 of 5671 Re: Hyundai Genesis - How is it doing so far? [captain2] by joe97 Jan 01, 2009 (12:09 pm)
Replying to: captain2 (Dec 31, 2008 8:23 am) You think he's talking about the Genesis specifically - or Hyundai overall? You really believe that?   Here is the article to read for yourself:   http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticleHomePage&art_aid=9- 7562   You could say the Genesis was released in a tough economy, but based on the current results, the tough economy could be helping the Genesis directly or indirectly.
#4038 of 5671 Re: Hyundai Genesis - How is it doing so far? [vjkaty] by joe97 Jan 01, 2009 (12:15 pm)
Replying to: vjkaty (Dec 31, 2008 8:40 am) The connection with regard to the Genesis (this thread) from your copy/paste of the November sales indicate two things:   The bad: more slumping news of the automotive market   The good: the continued rise of the Genesis, depsite having a lot of bad circumstances surrounding the vehicle.
#4039 of 5671 Re: First time poster here.... [blnewto] by joe97 Jan 01, 2009 (12:23 pm)
Replying to: blnewto (Dec 31, 2008 7:32 pm) Sure the Hyundai will depreciate quite a bit more than the Lexus   The Genesis has been holding its value relatively well. Sure it depreciates like a rock, but so are other luxury vehicles, including that of the GS, for example.   Relative is the keyword here, a Genesis retains about 34% after five years, GS, 38%.
#4040 of 5671 Re: Battery Dead Again [rlejr66] by colegar Jan 01, 2009 (4:14 pm)
Replying to: rlejr66 (Dec 29, 2008 6:52 pm) I would have been the first in my area to have one but I skipped over it to wait for a Black on Black. I commute 60 miles each way plus we take a lot of road trips. I would be very high on this car if it were not for the battery drain problem. The dealer has had it in the shop for the past five days and their diagnostic equipment has confirmed that there is an abnormal drain on the battery. However, they have not been able to determine the cause even though they have an excellent technician working on it.   I am really getting perturbed! I am not going to tolerate this without making it very embarrassing for Hyundai if it is not rectified very soon. As you can see by the mileage I have racked up, I bought the car to use ... not to have sitting around with a dead battery! Replies to this message: vjkaty (Jan 02, 2009 7:36 am) rlejr66 (Jan 05, 2009 1:35 am)

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