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Replying to: allmet33 (Dec 30, 2008 1:09 pm) yep - and in Hong Kong - MBs are - taxicabs to quote a poster 'bodad' on the 'is there room for Hyundai' forum and in response to questions about what a luxury car is, a nice summary: "'A. To some, it's a car that most people can't afford. B. To some, it's a car that has top of the line quality, comfort, power, and features C. To some, it's a car with an exclusive luxury badge regardless of price or quality. " Choice B would be for those doodad freaks that feel a luxurious car and a luxury car are the same thing - Choice C for all the 'brand snobs' out there., Choice A is interesting as it implies (and requires) a certain level of exclusivity. But, in any case, the Genesis comes up Aces in one of the 3 qualifications and fails in the other two. Give me an appropriately butt kissing 'Genesis' dealer., a price perhaps $10k or $15k MORE than what it is, then I give you a true luxury car, that appears to need nothing more than some suspension tuning and refinement to be truly competitive to those German and Japanese cars that Hyundai would like to to be.
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Replying to: madoka (Dec 30, 2008 1:35 pm) the 1, 3 and C are all 'entry level', only a means to get more American butts in their productss and compete with something like a Genesis only in their price. Have you ever driven a 135 - perhaps THE definition of what a 'sports sedan' should be', and it is tiny and anything but luxurious - quite the opposite of the Genesis. Although I'm sure there are a few exceptions, I sincerely doubt that anybody in Bavaria or Stuttgart is really giving the Genesis anything more than a passing glimpse. This may indeed be a big mistake on their part, it was in 1989 when they dismissed the LS also pretty much out of context. Nonetheless, the day that the buyer of the the big genuine luxury sedans like the A6/A8, the E and Ss, the GS and LSs, the 5s and 7s, the Ms etc. start flocking to the Hyundai dealer because they feel it is a better car (or at least a comparable one) is the day that the Genesis is competing with the 'big boys'.
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Replying to: captain2 (Dec 30, 2008 2:18 pm) Ahhhhhhhhhhh...but dear Captain, in your words...the 135 is automatically a luxury vehicle simply because it's made by BMW. So see...a luxury nameplate can make a car that doesn't even meet the standards of luxurious and it's okay, but a non-luxury nameplate making a luxury vehicle is impossible, right? LMAO Keep trying. |
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Replying to: captain2 (Dec 30, 2008 1:43 pm) Like I said...IF you were presented a Genesis with no way of knowing it was made by Hyundai, I guarantee you would be calling it a luxury sedan.
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Replying to: allmet33 (Dec 30, 2008 2:28 pm) A BMW branded product can be 'luxury' with rollup windows - very few marques can make that claim. And no I could not tell you if any car was truly a luxury car WITHOUT knowing who made it.
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Replying to: allmet33 (Dec 30, 2008 11:17 am) |
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Replying to: captain2 (Dec 30, 2008 1:43 pm) So I'd guess the Genesis is too "cheap"  And let me see if I understood you correctly, anything under $50K is not considered to be a "true" luxury car? If that's your argument, then that would go against your other points. |
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In a recent interivew, a Hyundai US exec. stated 40% of US sales (trade-in) come from buyers having previously owned vehicles from BMW, MB, Lexus, Porsche. Also, 90% of the owners come from other brands. In other words, first-time Hyundai owners. |
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