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Re: Battery Dead Again [colegar]
by rlejr66
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Dec 29, 2008 (6:52 pm)
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Replying to: colegar (Dec 26, 2008 3:01 pm)
Wow . . . . . . . .13K miles already? Did you get one of the first Genesis' to hit North America soil? You must have a hellacious commute, or just like to drive! Best of luck getting your ride squared away. Whether you paid 30K or 100K, it doesn't matter if you can't get it to run!
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Re: Comparing several . . [donna388]
by rlejr66
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Dec 29, 2008 (6:57 pm)
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Replying to: donna388 (Dec 29, 2008 11:59 am)
Just saw the CR article. A little surprised with some of the comparison vehicles. A Maxima and a G8? I guess "high end luxury sedan" can mean just about anything these days. Especially when everyone else is comparing the Genesis to BMW, Mercedes, and Lexus. Looks like the car geeks are having a hard time placing the Genesis in any particular segment. In the end, the Genesis still gets the thumbs up! No matter what the competition is.
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Re: Comparing several . . [rlejr66]
by backy
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Dec 29, 2008 (8:44 pm)
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Replying to: rlejr66 (Dec 29, 2008 6:57 pm)
CR compared the Genesis to the Maxima and G8 because they hadn't been tested by CR yet, so they were lumped in with the Genesis to make a test group for an article. In actuality, CR compared the Genesis against ALL vehicles in its price class, most of which they have already tested. That is how CR groups cars, by price and type (sedan, SUV etc.). Since the 3 cars are similar in price, they get lumped together for rating purposes.
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Re: Comparing several . . [rlejr66]
by blnewto
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Dec 30, 2008 (6:37 am)
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Replying to: rlejr66 (Dec 29, 2008 6:57 pm)
Looks like the car geeks are having a hard time placing the Genesis in any particular segment
Because the Gen has it's own class "Bargain Luxury", entry-level luxury may apply, but that's usually smaller cars such as BMW3, Infinity G, Lexus IS, etc. And although they're all great cars they're not a bargain. Not sure where else you'd place the vehicle~how 'bout "entry level large bargain luxury" 
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Re: Comparing several . . [blnewto]
by allmet33
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Dec 30, 2008 (6:44 am)
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Replying to: blnewto (Dec 30, 2008 6:37 am)
Curious to know...what would make the Genesis "entry level"? If you use base that off the 3-Series, ES, G and C-Class...the Genesis definitely offers more. I certainly agree with you on the bargain point...you can pretty much get any of the premium entry level models fully loaded and pay what you would for a fully loaded Genesis 4.6 for maybe a couple thousand more.
Well...pretty soon, the Genesis will have a brother on the market. Kia will be bringing their version based on the next generation Azera platform. So far it's called the VG.
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Re: Comparing several . . [allmet33]
by joe97
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Dec 30, 2008 (11:09 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Dec 30, 2008 6:44 am)
The Kia "VG" wouldn't be the brother of the Genesis, but the Azera. 
It probably would have some name other than Amanti - VG is the codename used internally.
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Re: Comparing several . . [joe97]
by allmet33
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Dec 30, 2008 (11:17 am)
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Replying to: joe97 (Dec 30, 2008 11:09 am)
So basically...the VG will be replacing the Amanti then, right? From what I'm seeing, the VG will be longer and wider than the current Amanti which would make it bigger than the Azera...like the Genesis. What gives?
Here's a spy shot of one being tested...notice the Genesis wheels!
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Re: [zone4]
by captain2
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Dec 30, 2008 (12:15 pm)
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Replying to: zone4 (Dec 29, 2008 6:35 pm)
So if the Genesis was made by BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Lexus, or Infinity would it then be considered a luxury vehicle?
almost certainly, the only difference being that BMW/MB and the like have no interest is being any kind of value leader, they simply want to be the best
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