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Replying to: jimbres (Dec 04, 2008 1:17 pm) Amen! but it is something that sells regardless of what real value it has. It has certainly become fashionable to have those 3 letters on your trunk lid. Many AWD vehicles started life FWD and are really FWD about 100% of the time - only reverting to RWD in slippery conditions AND below certain speeds. In many parts of the country where really bad road condtions are infrequent (or non existent), I believe that we are better served saving the gas and some of that added mechanical complexity as well. If Hyundai, in this case, decides to come out with an AWD Genesis, it's only because they are wanting to keep up with the Joneses. |
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Replying to: skylab (Dec 04, 2008 1:39 pm) My side of the pond? I'm a New Yorker. Are you a Brit?
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Replying to: louiswei (Dec 04, 2008 11:53 am)
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Replying to: jimbres (Dec 04, 2008 1:58 pm) I am in Cali and here we also use Beemer for BMW bikes and Bimmer for BMW cars. |
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Replying to: captain2 (Dec 04, 2008 1:59 pm) Gosh Captain...I can only wonder why that would be?  Maybe you don't intend for your posts to seem as such, but I have to point out (as others have seen as well), there are plenty of times you actually do come across like you're dumping on anything Hyundai This is not intended to start an argument or debate, just pointing out an observation to your pondering. Can't we simply look at a manufacturer that has suddenly decided to spread its wings, has come out with several commendably competitve products recently ann then discuss why those products don't do as well as perhaps they should in the market place? Did you're fingers cramp up while typing that? It actually would seem you threw a compliment in there.  Seriously...if we are talking the Genesis, numbers have been shown that indicate that it is doing just as well as other vehicles of the same type. What's the problem?
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Replying to: allmet33 (Dec 04, 2008 2:23 pm) |
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Replying to: jimbres (Dec 04, 2008 1:58 pm) And frankly, Captain, the tenor of your posts reminds me of nothing so much as the snobbery and complacency that fatally undermined the British car industry in the face of patient, iterative design and engineering innovation by a far earlier wave of foreign (and hence, of course, inherently inferior) competition.
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Replying to: skylab (Dec 04, 2008 3:18 pm) |
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Replying to: captain2 (Dec 04, 2008 2:40 pm) Back on topic - so, let's forget the fact for a second financially Hyundai has estimated the luxury nameplate would only break-even after some double digit years, who's to say the brand would be a guaranteed success, with ZERO brand equity? It took years and years for Lexus to become established, for the most part; Infiniti is still getting its bearings together (while most people still put down as Infinity); and Acura has not even come close to a household luxury brand despite the fact it was the first Asian luxury nameplate in the US. Even the Germans, namely BMW and Mercedes, having dominated this segment, has been seen as susceptible. Regarding the decision, again, Hyundai did what it felt was the best option for the US market. And we know the Genesis under the Hyundai umbrella has been resilient, if nothing else, despite the crisis being experienced in recent months. Continued "dumping" isn't going to do much so let's see how the Genesis plays along. Personally I feel the arrival of the Genesis family (with the upcoming coupe) helps in three general areas: 1) the products themselves, of course 2) other products within the fleet 3) increased perception of the brand/company As an aside, those who predicted the Genesis would be DOA like the Phaeton - show yourself 
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