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Replying to: captain2 (Dec 04, 2008 11:41 am) In the end, does it matter who is discounting what? Sales are sales, right? After all, we are talking about how the Genesis sales are stacking up against cars of the same class. Last I looked...there were no deep discounts on the Genesis. Regardless of that fact...it's doing better than you anticipated based on your posts before the Genesis was rolled out. Why does everything from you always have to have a, "Yeah, but..." with it? |
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Replying to: sandy25 (Dec 04, 2008 11:09 am) Value buyers, which I think most, if not all, of the Hyundai buyers/owners are may never understand why people pay the premium to go luxury. Which is one of the major reasons that led me to believe that the Genesis will not succeed while carrying a Hyundai badge. Well, if you think selling 1,100 units per month with HEAVY discounts then I rest my case... Also, let's get this straight, in "Hyundai buyers may never understand why people pay premium for luxury" I do NOT mean that people who buy Hyundai cannot afford luxury. Two totally different statements so those of you who want to put words in my mouth, stop. I am sure the captain agrees with me on this one.
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Replying to: louiswei (Dec 04, 2008 11:53 am) Where is the heavy discount? If you go to Hyundai's website and check out the deals being offered by them, the Genesis has NONE!!! So...any deals happening are through the dealerships. Hyundai Special Offers And if you think BMW doesn't offer discounts... Passport BMW Special Offers Oh yeah...I'm a value shopper myself, but I do understand the premium thing. I don't knock those that desire to go that route, to each their own. |
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I just checked out one of the BMW specials on the link I provided...a 5-Series that has a listed MSRP of $46,325, being offered for $43,555 and you get...BLACK LEATHERETTE!!! Okay, okay...I'm sorry about that one. I just find that to be so hilarious. |
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Replying to: skylab (Dec 04, 2008 9:33 am) Sorry for the interruption, but as a BMW owner, I must point out that "Beemer" denotes a BMW motorcycle. If you're referring to a BMW automobile, the correct term is "Bimmer". You're quite welcome. Incidentally, I visited a Hyundai dealer a few weeks ago & looked at a Genesis. While I didn't drive it - I'm not now in the market for a new car - I must say that I liked what I saw. The car looks better in the metal - more stylish & less generic - than it does in photographs, & it's certainly well put together. Material & build quality are first-rate. I also had an interesting chat with a salesman, a courteous & competent chap, who said that he wished that the Genesis was available with AWD. In my relatively affluent & import-friendly zip code, most premium German & Japanese car buyers choose AWD when it's available. One rarely sees a BMW 3 or 5 series that isn't an xi, or a Mercedes C, E or S class that isn't a 4-Matic, even though our winters aren't all that severe. He was afraid that Genesis sales would dry up as soon as the first snow flake fell. Now I happen to believe that the benefits of AWD are exaggerated (my Bimmer has RWD), but if I wanted to buy a Genesis, I'd be foolish not to take advantage of this salesman's fears & wait until right after the 1st winter storm to make my offer.
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Replying to: jimbres (Dec 04, 2008 1:17 pm) Sorry. I've never quite got used to that convention, which seems to be largely restricted to your side of the pond. And I have nothing against either BMWs or their owners -- the dripping condescension of the post I responded to just sent me frothing over the top. 
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Replying to: jimbres (Dec 04, 2008 1:17 pm) Amen! but it is something that sells regardless of what real value it has. It has certainly become fashionable to have those 3 letters on your trunk lid. Many AWD vehicles started life FWD and are really FWD about 100% of the time - only reverting to RWD in slippery conditions AND below certain speeds. In many parts of the country where really bad road condtions are infrequent (or non existent), I believe that we are better served saving the gas and some of that added mechanical complexity as well. If Hyundai, in this case, decides to come out with an AWD Genesis, it's only because they are wanting to keep up with the Joneses. |
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Replying to: skylab (Dec 04, 2008 1:39 pm) My side of the pond? I'm a New Yorker. Are you a Brit?
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Replying to: louiswei (Dec 04, 2008 11:53 am)
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Replying to: jimbres (Dec 04, 2008 1:58 pm) I am in Cali and here we also use Beemer for BMW bikes and Bimmer for BMW cars. |
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