Sign In Join 



Hyundai Genesis Sedan 2009-

5692 messages,  Last post on Nov 25, 2009 at 6:02 AM

You are in the Hyundai Genesis Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens

What is this discussion about? Hyundai Genesis, Hyundai Genesis Coupe, Concept Cars, Future Vehicle, Coupe, Sedan


Messages Page 384 of 570
1
...
381
382
383
384
385
386
387
...
570
Prev
Next
Last
Go To Msg #
Search This Discussion

#3826 of 5692
Re: US Genesis November Sales [joe97] by captain2
Dec 04, 2008 (8:58 am)
Reply

Replying to: joe97 (Dec 03, 2008 4:51 pm)

although I suspect there was probably some super promotion going on
The term 'super promotion' is a term reserved for Hyundais,Buicks, and the like - although I'm sure that many of the cars you have listed here were (and probably still are) available at better prices, it is the fact that thngs like those BMWs don't HAVE to be discounted (and don't HAVE to be cheap) to sell. This distinguishes them from the Hyundais of the world.
 Folks pay the premium for the BMWs because they want the best and couldn't really care much about any 'super promotion' it may or may not be available at. It is NOT price that sells the BMW (or many of the other cars you list). The Hyundai buyer may never understand this....
#3827 of 5692
Re: US Genesis November Sales [captain2] by skylab
Dec 04, 2008 (9:33 am)
Reply

Replying to: captain2 (Dec 04, 2008 8:58 am)

Perhaps you would care to explain then why BMW has for years massively subsidized leases in order to actually get their overpriced vehicles into customer hands? The truism has long been that only an idiot actually buys a Beemer and you certainly appear to fit the profile.
#3828 of 5692
Re: US Genesis November Sales [skylab] by captain2
Dec 04, 2008 (10:33 am)
Reply

Replying to: skylab (Dec 04, 2008 9:33 am)

don't own one - , if you think that anybody that spends the money on those BMWs are 'idiots' then you would definitely be in the heart of the Hyundai buying demographic .
#3829 of 5692
Re: US Genesis November Sales [captain2] by sandy25
Dec 04, 2008 (11:09 am)
Reply

Replying to: captain2 (Dec 04, 2008 8:58 am)

"The Hyundai buyer may never understand this...."
 
Gee, what an insulting comment. Captain, your posts are really going downhill. You used to make a little sense. But you are so totally un-informed on BMW promotional pracrtices. Now I'm beginning to wonder wonder why your fellow inmates elected you their Captain.
#3830 of 5692
Re: US Genesis November Sales [captain2] by fushigi
Dec 04, 2008 (11:21 am)
Reply

Replying to: captain2 (Dec 04, 2008 8:58 am)

BMW is discounting the interest if not the purchase price: http://www.edmunds.com/incentives/RebateController?step=1#bmw
#3831 of 5692
Re: US Genesis November Sales [sandy25] by captain2
Dec 04, 2008 (11:41 am)
Reply

Replying to: sandy25 (Dec 04, 2008 11:09 am)

sandy25-
not meant to be insulting- but still a fact, IMO, Hyundais ever since they frist graced out shores have ALWAYS been sold on the basis of price and continue to be. They are certainly discounted much more heavily than some of those other brands mentioned. The comment meant to mean that the Hyundai buyer goes into the Dealer EXPECTING a cheap price (and a discount) more so than most other brands. The Genesis it seems is no exception.
As far as my fellow 'inmates' - now that would be one screwed up prison if I were their Captain!
#3832 of 5692
Re: US Genesis November Sales [captain2] by allmet33
Dec 04, 2008 (11:52 am)
Reply

Replying to: captain2 (Dec 04, 2008 11:41 am)

Captain...you are right in that price isn't what sells BMW's, however...you make it seem like everyone going to buy one just walks in and pays MSRP for one. So while performance may sell a BMW, a buyer is still looking for the best possible price. Folks are still gonna pay a premium price to own a BMW and expect the premium experience.
 
In the end, does it matter who is discounting what? Sales are sales, right? After all, we are talking about how the Genesis sales are stacking up against cars of the same class. Last I looked...there were no deep discounts on the Genesis. Regardless of that fact...it's doing better than you anticipated based on your posts before the Genesis was rolled out.
 
Why does everything from you always have to have a, "Yeah, but..." with it?
#3833 of 5692
Re: US Genesis November Sales [sandy25] by louiswei
Dec 04, 2008 (11:53 am)
Reply

Replying to: sandy25 (Dec 04, 2008 11:09 am)

Have to back the captain up here...
 
Value buyers, which I think most, if not all, of the Hyundai buyers/owners are may never understand why people pay the premium to go luxury. Which is one of the major reasons that led me to believe that the Genesis will not succeed while carrying a Hyundai badge. Well, if you think selling 1,100 units per month with HEAVY discounts then I rest my case...
  
Also, let's get this straight, in "Hyundai buyers may never understand why people pay premium for luxury" I do NOT mean that people who buy Hyundai cannot afford luxury. Two totally different statements so those of you who want to put words in my mouth, stop. I am sure the captain agrees with me on this one.
#3834 of 5692
Re: US Genesis November Sales [louiswei] by allmet33
Dec 04, 2008 (11:58 am)
Reply

Replying to: louiswei (Dec 04, 2008 11:53 am)

Well, if you think selling 1,100 units per month with HEAVY discounts then I rest my case...
 
Where is the heavy discount? If you go to Hyundai's website and check out the deals being offered by them, the Genesis has NONE!!! So...any deals happening are through the dealerships.
 
Hyundai Special Offers
 
And if you think BMW doesn't offer discounts...
 
Passport BMW Special Offers
 
Oh yeah...I'm a value shopper myself, but I do understand the premium thing. I don't knock those that desire to go that route, to each their own.
#3835 of 5692
Okay...I can't stop laughing! by allmet33
Dec 04, 2008 (12:17 pm)
Reply
I just checked out one of the BMW specials on the link I provided...a 5-Series that has a listed MSRP of $46,325, being offered for $43,555 and you get...BLACK LEATHERETTE!!!
 
Okay, okay...I'm sorry about that one. I just find that to be so hilarious.

Messages Page 384 of 570
1
...
381
382
383
384
385
386
387
...
570
Prev
Next
Last
Go To Msg #
Search This Discussion
To POST a message, please Sign In.

New? Join Now!

Forum Tools

Please sign in.
Email Address:

Password:

Forgot Password?

Search Forums

Enter Keyword(s)

Advanced Search

Browse by Vehicle



View All Vehicles
Advertisement
Ask the Community
See What People Are Asking

Browse by Board

Browse by Topic


View All Topics

Today's Chats

Advertisement