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Replying to: jmaulsby (Dec 02, 2008 2:38 pm) Unfortunately, modern engines are optimized for gasoline and are unable to utilize the meager BTU value of ethanol. My 05 BMW 330i gas mileage decreases by about 7% using E10 and both my 06 Chrysler 300C Hemi and 08 Saturn Astra lose close to 10%. In short, dumping 10% ethanol into a tank of pure gasoline has almost no effect on the distance I can drive. Then there is the issue of ethanol destroying fuel lines in yard equipment and eating through the tanks of older boats. We are also depleting the aquifers in the midwest for no good reason. E10 is a complete scam. |
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Replying to: joe97 (Dec 02, 2008 6:44 pm) Asian automakers: (H-I-L group) Hyundai, Infiniti & Lexus US - monthly ~ sales of (H-I-L) Luxury & Sporty Sedans: ---(RWD or AWD)----------Aug--------Sep--------Oct--------Nov------>-------2008 ----\------------------/--------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ Hyundai Genesis V6 / V8 1,177 1,029 1,121 1,151 > (4,478) Infiniti M35 / M45 (S/X) 1,211 1,077 1,193 1,186 > (4,667) Lexus GS350 / GS460 1,686 977 819 721 > (4,203) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ Hey Joe97, It seems that Hyundai Genesis is keeping their part up in the (H-I-L) group thus far of monthly sales from the sources you received. Way to go Genesis! So Joe97, Do have the monthly ~ sales sources of "B-A-M" like food Chef Emeril Lagasse (shout out from FoodNetwork) this would be the German automakers: (B-A-M) group Bimmer > 535 / 550 , Audi > A6 / S6 & Mercedes > E350 / E550? Both groups (B-A-M) / (H-I-L) are trying to survive the US auto-market in sales from the recession Dec '08. Adv. Thx. VeraGen 
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Replying to: joe97 (Dec 02, 2008 6:44 pm) Genesis: 1,177 | 1,029 | 1,121 | 1,151 GS: 1,686 | 977 | 819 | 721 M: 1,211 | 1,077 | 1,193 | 1,186 With numbers like that, there's more of a market for the Genesis than a few posters would care to admit.
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Replying to: allmet33 (Dec 03, 2008 12:17 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Dec 03, 2008 12:51 pm) 
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Replying to: veragen (Dec 03, 2008 12:15 am) BMW 5-Series (14,595): 5,287 | 2,423 | 3,958 | 2,927 Mercedes E-Class (10,011): 2,681 | 2,968 | 2,098 | 2,264 Infiniti M (4,667): 1,211 | 1,077 | 1,193 | 1,186 Hyundai Genesis (4,478): 1,177 | 1,029 | 1,121 | 1,151 Lexus GS (4,203): 1,686 | 977 | 819 | 721 Audi A6/S6 (4,085): 1,520 | 1,090 | 758 | 717 Acura RL (1,081): 316 | 259 | 272 | 234 5-Series is still the king here, although I suspect there was probably some super promotion going on in August; the number contrast with the other three months are glaring...
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Replying to: joe97 (Dec 03, 2008 4:51 pm) Kinda hard to ignore the whole "maintenance free" package that BMW offers. I mean...all you have to do is worry about paying the monthly note. That's up there with with a 10yr/100k mile warranty...very, very hard to ignore. This may be a dumb question, but I've never really followed the RL...why is it such a poor seller??? |
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Replying to: joe97 (Dec 03, 2008 4:51 pm) The term 'super promotion' is a term reserved for Hyundais,Buicks, and the like - although I'm sure that many of the cars you have listed here were (and probably still are) available at better prices, it is the fact that thngs like those BMWs don't HAVE to be discounted (and don't HAVE to be cheap) to sell. This distinguishes them from the Hyundais of the world. Folks pay the premium for the BMWs because they want the best and couldn't really care much about any 'super promotion' it may or may not be available at. It is NOT price that sells the BMW (or many of the other cars you list). The Hyundai buyer may never understand this....
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Replying to: captain2 (Dec 04, 2008 8:58 am)
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Replying to: skylab (Dec 04, 2008 9:33 am) .
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