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Replying to: sergio19 (Dec 02, 2008 6:05 am) |
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Replying to: richard124 (Nov 22, 2008 3:26 pm) 1) In areas that are "non-attainment" zones by EPA standards (such as North TX with non-attainment for ozone) the ethanol oxygenates the gasoline so it burns cleaner, thus less air pollution. All gasoline in N. TX included in the non-attainment zone must have ethanol. 2) "Helps" meet the federal governments mandate of distilling and selling XX billions of gallon of ethanol by a certain year. To reduce dependence on foreign oil. Problem with that is, ethanol takes more energy to distill a gallon than it takes to distill one gallon of gasoline, plus the BTU value of ethanol is around 25% < gasoline. Ask the rancher having to buy expensive corn to feed livestock what they think of the government mandate. I will get off my soap box.
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Genesis books 1,151 units sold for the US market in Nov. Even with all of the signs against the launch of the Genesis, Hyundai continues to weather the storm with its new RWD sedan for the past few months when everything just about turned for the worst. US August - November sales: Genesis: 1,177 | 1,029 | 1,121 | 1,151 GS: 1,686 | 977 | 819 | 721 M: 1,211 | 1,077 | 1,193 | 1,186 |
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Replying to: jmaulsby (Dec 02, 2008 2:38 pm) Unfortunately, modern engines are optimized for gasoline and are unable to utilize the meager BTU value of ethanol. My 05 BMW 330i gas mileage decreases by about 7% using E10 and both my 06 Chrysler 300C Hemi and 08 Saturn Astra lose close to 10%. In short, dumping 10% ethanol into a tank of pure gasoline has almost no effect on the distance I can drive. Then there is the issue of ethanol destroying fuel lines in yard equipment and eating through the tanks of older boats. We are also depleting the aquifers in the midwest for no good reason. E10 is a complete scam. |
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Replying to: joe97 (Dec 02, 2008 6:44 pm) Asian automakers: (H-I-L group) Hyundai, Infiniti & Lexus US - monthly ~ sales of (H-I-L) Luxury & Sporty Sedans: ---(RWD or AWD)----------Aug--------Sep--------Oct--------Nov------>-------2008 ----\------------------/--------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ Hyundai Genesis V6 / V8 1,177 1,029 1,121 1,151 > (4,478) Infiniti M35 / M45 (S/X) 1,211 1,077 1,193 1,186 > (4,667) Lexus GS350 / GS460 1,686 977 819 721 > (4,203) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ Hey Joe97, It seems that Hyundai Genesis is keeping their part up in the (H-I-L) group thus far of monthly sales from the sources you received. Way to go Genesis! So Joe97, Do have the monthly ~ sales sources of "B-A-M" like food Chef Emeril Lagasse (shout out from FoodNetwork) this would be the German automakers: (B-A-M) group Bimmer > 535 / 550 , Audi > A6 / S6 & Mercedes > E350 / E550? Both groups (B-A-M) / (H-I-L) are trying to survive the US auto-market in sales from the recession Dec '08. Adv. Thx. VeraGen 
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Replying to: joe97 (Dec 02, 2008 6:44 pm) Genesis: 1,177 | 1,029 | 1,121 | 1,151 GS: 1,686 | 977 | 819 | 721 M: 1,211 | 1,077 | 1,193 | 1,186 With numbers like that, there's more of a market for the Genesis than a few posters would care to admit.
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Replying to: allmet33 (Dec 03, 2008 12:17 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Dec 03, 2008 12:51 pm) 
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Replying to: veragen (Dec 03, 2008 12:15 am) BMW 5-Series (14,595): 5,287 | 2,423 | 3,958 | 2,927 Mercedes E-Class (10,011): 2,681 | 2,968 | 2,098 | 2,264 Infiniti M (4,667): 1,211 | 1,077 | 1,193 | 1,186 Hyundai Genesis (4,478): 1,177 | 1,029 | 1,121 | 1,151 Lexus GS (4,203): 1,686 | 977 | 819 | 721 Audi A6/S6 (4,085): 1,520 | 1,090 | 758 | 717 Acura RL (1,081): 316 | 259 | 272 | 234 5-Series is still the king here, although I suspect there was probably some super promotion going on in August; the number contrast with the other three months are glaring...
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Replying to: joe97 (Dec 03, 2008 4:51 pm) Kinda hard to ignore the whole "maintenance free" package that BMW offers. I mean...all you have to do is worry about paying the monthly note. That's up there with with a 10yr/100k mile warranty...very, very hard to ignore. This may be a dumb question, but I've never really followed the RL...why is it such a poor seller??? |
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