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Re: Bad experience with the Genesis [regretful2] by allmet33
Dec 01, 2008 (6:52 am)
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Replying to: regretful2 (Nov 29, 2008 12:39 am)

Regretful2, I hope you were able to take your foot out of your mouth long enough to enjoy your Thanksgiving feast. I assure you, I am not a Hyundai employee...if I was, I would have that new Genesis with no problems. At best, I'm a Hyundai fan having owned 3 Hyundai vehicles (with the Azera being my current one). I've experienced, first hand, the progression the automaker has made in terms of quality and dependability starting with their miserable start ('87 Excel 4dr sedan), moving forward to their turning point ('02 Sonata) and then now.
 
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm...you're right, you can hook up a computer to find out quite a bit about your vehicle, however...nothing can ever replace a good ol road test. Sure, you can think a problem is fixed once you've put the tools down, but you never really know until you put the vehicle back on the road.
 
At any rate, I'm sorry to hear you're experiencing the problems you are. I hope everything gets taken care of and you are motoring down the road with a smile on your face.
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Wonder if this will make it into the Genesis! by allmet33
Dec 01, 2008 (10:01 am)
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Hyundai & Kia Planning AWD Cars
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Interesting!!! by allmet33
Dec 01, 2008 (10:02 am)
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RKSport Hyundai Genesis Sedan
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by sergio19
Dec 02, 2008 (6:05 am)
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Allmet,
 
Thanks for sharing...that's really awesome. Hyundai is really moving forward and doesn't look like they are slowing down anytime soon.
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Re: Interesting!!! [allmet33] by blnewto
Dec 02, 2008 (6:29 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Dec 01, 2008 10:02 am)

Now that's what I'm talkin' about! Beating BMW to an M7
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Re: [sergio19] by allmet33
Dec 02, 2008 (6:32 am)
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Replying to: sergio19 (Dec 02, 2008 6:05 am)

I'm just glad to see they aren't resting on their laurels.
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Re: Battery and ethenol [richard124] by jmaulsby
Dec 02, 2008 (2:38 pm)
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Replying to: richard124 (Nov 22, 2008 3:26 pm)

At least two reasons to add ethanol to gasoline.
1) In areas that are "non-attainment" zones by EPA standards (such as North TX with non-attainment for ozone) the ethanol oxygenates the gasoline so it burns cleaner, thus less air pollution. All gasoline in N. TX included in the non-attainment zone must have ethanol.
2) "Helps" meet the federal governments mandate of distilling and selling XX billions of gallon of ethanol by a certain year. To reduce dependence on foreign oil. Problem with that is, ethanol takes more energy to distill a gallon than it takes to distill one gallon of gasoline, plus the BTU value of ethanol is around 25% < gasoline. Ask the rancher having to buy expensive corn to feed livestock what they think of the government mandate. I will get off my soap box.
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US Genesis November Sales by joe97
Dec 02, 2008 (6:44 pm)
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Genesis books 1,151 units sold for the US market in Nov.
 
Even with all of the signs against the launch of the Genesis, Hyundai continues to weather the storm with its new RWD sedan for the past few months when everything just about turned for the worst.
 
US August - November sales:
 
Genesis: 1,177 | 1,029 | 1,121 | 1,151
GS: 1,686 | 977 | 819 | 721
M: 1,211 | 1,077 | 1,193 | 1,186
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Re: Battery and ethenol [jmaulsby] by pafromfl
Dec 02, 2008 (9:30 pm)
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Replying to: jmaulsby (Dec 02, 2008 2:38 pm)

plus the BTU value of ethanol is around 25%
 
Unfortunately, modern engines are optimized for gasoline and are unable to utilize the meager BTU value of ethanol. My 05 BMW 330i gas mileage decreases by about 7% using E10 and both my 06 Chrysler 300C Hemi and 08 Saturn Astra lose close to 10%. In short, dumping 10% ethanol into a tank of pure gasoline has almost no effect on the distance I can drive. Then there is the issue of ethanol destroying fuel lines in yard equipment and eating through the tanks of older boats. We are also depleting the aquifers in the midwest for no good reason. E10 is a complete scam.
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Re: US Genesis November Sales [joe97] by veragen
Dec 03, 2008 (12:15 am)
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Replying to: joe97 (Dec 02, 2008 6:44 pm)

Even with all of the signs against the launch of the Genesis, Hyundai continues to weather the storm
 
Asian automakers: (H-I-L group) Hyundai, Infiniti & Lexus
US - monthly ~ sales of (H-I-L) Luxury & Sporty Sedans:
 
---(RWD or AWD)----------Aug--------Sep--------Oct--------Nov------>-------2008
----\------------------/--------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------
        Hyundai
  Genesis V6 / V8 1,177 1,029 1,121 1,151 > (4,478)
 
         Infiniti
  M35 / M45 (S/X) 1,211 1,077 1,193 1,186 > (4,667)
 
         Lexus
  GS350 / GS460 1,686 977 819 721 > (4,203)
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------
 
Hey Joe97, It seems that Hyundai Genesis is keeping their part up in the (H-I-L) group thus far of monthly sales from the sources you received. Way to go Genesis!
 
So Joe97, Do have the monthly ~ sales sources of "B-A-M" like food Chef Emeril Lagasse (shout out from FoodNetwork) this would be the German automakers: (B-A-M) group Bimmer > 535 / 550 , Audi > A6 / S6 & Mercedes > E350 / E550? Both groups (B-A-M) / (H-I-L) are trying to survive the US auto-market in sales from the recession Dec '08.
 
Adv. Thx.
VeraGen

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