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#3810 of 5168 Re: Funny! [allmet33] by chabowski Nov 30, 2008 (8:52 pm)
Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 24, 2008 12:08 pm) Fairly standard industry practice. My brother works for Toyota's technical center in Ann Arbor, MI. They'll buy significantly updated or entirely new models that are direct competitors to Toyota or Lexus models and test drive and then completely disassemble them. Employees, especially engineers, are encouraged to check out these cars over weekend and/or for trips. Until the gas price exploded, Toyota even picked up the gas. Few years ago, we had a family vacation and we had a flotilla of GM and Ford vehicles: Caddies and Lincolns. Much better than renting from Enterprise!   My brother was very impressed with the Genesis.
#3811 of 5168 Re: Bad experience with the Genesis [regretful2] by allmet33 Dec 01, 2008 (7:52 am)
Replying to: regretful2 (Nov 29, 2008 1:39 am) Regretful2, I hope you were able to take your foot out of your mouth long enough to enjoy your Thanksgiving feast. I assure you, I am not a Hyundai employee...if I was, I would have that new Genesis with no problems. At best, I'm a Hyundai fan having owned 3 Hyundai vehicles (with the Azera being my current one). I've experienced, first hand, the progression the automaker has made in terms of quality and dependability starting with their miserable start ('87 Excel 4dr sedan), moving forward to their turning point ('02 Sonata) and then now.   Hmmmmmmmmmmmm...you're right, you can hook up a computer to find out quite a bit about your vehicle, however...nothing can ever replace a good ol road test. Sure, you can think a problem is fixed once you've put the tools down, but you never really know until you put the vehicle back on the road.   At any rate, I'm sorry to hear you're experiencing the problems you are. I hope everything gets taken care of and you are motoring down the road with a smile on your face.
#3812 of 5168 Wonder if this will make it into the Genesis! by allmet33 Dec 01, 2008 (11:01 am)
Hyundai & Kia Planning AWD Cars
#3813 of 5168 Interesting!!! by allmet33 Dec 01, 2008 (11:02 am)
RKSport Hyundai Genesis Sedan Replies to this message: blnewto (Dec 02, 2008 7:29 am)
#3814 of 5168 by sergio19 Dec 02, 2008 (7:05 am)
Allmet,   Thanks for sharing...that's really awesome. Hyundai is really moving forward and doesn't look like they are slowing down anytime soon. Replies to this message: allmet33 (Dec 02, 2008 7:32 am)
#3815 of 5168 Re: Interesting!!! [allmet33] by blnewto Dec 02, 2008 (7:29 am)
Replying to: allmet33 (Dec 01, 2008 11:02 am) Now that's what I'm talkin' about! Beating BMW to an M7
#3816 of 5168 Re: [sergio19] by allmet33 Dec 02, 2008 (7:32 am)
Replying to: sergio19 (Dec 02, 2008 7:05 am) I'm just glad to see they aren't resting on their laurels.
#3817 of 5168 Re: Battery and ethenol [richard124] by jmaulsby Dec 02, 2008 (3:38 pm)
Replying to: richard124 (Nov 22, 2008 4:26 pm) At least two reasons to add ethanol to gasoline. 1) In areas that are "non-attainment" zones by EPA standards (such as North TX with non-attainment for ozone) the ethanol oxygenates the gasoline so it burns cleaner, thus less air pollution. All gasoline in N. TX included in the non-attainment zone must have ethanol. 2) "Helps" meet the federal governments mandate of distilling and selling XX billions of gallon of ethanol by a certain year. To reduce dependence on foreign oil. Problem with that is, ethanol takes more energy to distill a gallon than it takes to distill one gallon of gasoline, plus the BTU value of ethanol is around 25% < gasoline. Ask the rancher having to buy expensive corn to feed livestock what they think of the government mandate. I will get off my soap box. Replies to this message: pafromfl (Dec 02, 2008 10:30 pm)
#3818 of 5168 US Genesis November Sales by joe97 Dec 02, 2008 (7:44 pm)
Genesis books 1,151 units sold for the US market in Nov.   Even with all of the signs against the launch of the Genesis, Hyundai continues to weather the storm with its new RWD sedan for the past few months when everything just about turned for the worst.   US August - November sales:   Genesis: 1,177 | 1,029 | 1,121 | 1,151 GS: 1,686 | 977 | 819 | 721 M: 1,211 | 1,077 | 1,193 | 1,186 Replies to this message: veragen (Dec 03, 2008 1:15 am) joe97 (Dec 03, 2008 5:51 pm) allmet33 (Dec 04, 2008 8:10 am) captain2 (Dec 04, 2008 9:58 am) and 27 more... allmet33 (Dec 03, 2008 1:17 pm) houdini1 (Dec 03, 2008 1:51 pm) joe97 (Dec 03, 2008 5:34 pm)
#3819 of 5168 Re: Battery and ethenol [jmaulsby] by pafromfl Dec 02, 2008 (10:30 pm)
Replying to: jmaulsby (Dec 02, 2008 3:38 pm) plus the BTU value of ethanol is around 25%   Unfortunately, modern engines are optimized for gasoline and are unable to utilize the meager BTU value of ethanol. My 05 BMW 330i gas mileage decreases by about 7% using E10 and both my 06 Chrysler 300C Hemi and 08 Saturn Astra lose close to 10%. In short, dumping 10% ethanol into a tank of pure gasoline has almost no effect on the distance I can drive. Then there is the issue of ethanol destroying fuel lines in yard equipment and eating through the tanks of older boats. We are also depleting the aquifers in the midwest for no good reason. E10 is a complete scam.

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