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Re: Car & Driver on the Genesis [backy] by carolinabob
Nov 25, 2008 (7:55 am)
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Replying to: backy (Nov 24, 2008 1:24 pm)

Funny you did not cite the longer, follow-up real road test where they had very serious concerns about the suspension and possibly the transmission/computer. October issue.
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Re: Genesis on "24" [dean3927] by joe97
Nov 25, 2008 (8:01 am)
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Replying to: dean3927 (Nov 25, 2008 2:18 am)

Thanks. I saw the replay last night. It was a Genesis sedan, dang I got my hopes up on the coupe - I was misled
 
Anyway, the silver Genesis sedan looked good nonetheless. I believe it's the V8 Genesis.
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Re: Hyundai does not want to hear from consumers or anybody. [sanjaysdca] by carolinabob
Nov 25, 2008 (8:04 am)
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Replying to: sanjaysdca (Nov 25, 2008 7:39 am)

Precisely. As I said Lexus and others have welcomed input from me and others. That is how any real corporation improves itself - by seeking and utilizing consumer input.
  Both the Hyundai Santa Fe and Genesis are off my prospective lists now and probably won't return. Would rather pay more for a Lexus, Acura or Infiniti and purchase from a company that appreciates conusmers and has great dealer networks and customer service.
   Glad to hear that Toyota and GM are looking at Genesis. Means that in a couple of years their cars will be comparably equipped, better supported, more reliable and customers more appreciated than Hyundai.
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Re: Car & Driver on the Genesis [carolinabob] by joe97
Nov 25, 2008 (8:17 am)
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Replying to: carolinabob (Nov 25, 2008 7:55 am)

Why are you so fixated on those two reviews? More specifically, that one point, out of the many other points the reviewers made. There are also tons of other reviews you can reference...
 
If the suspension was indeed an issue, wouldn't more reviews point it out? Wouldn't we hear from all of customers?
 
And, if you were trying to advocate readers and shoppers as you put it, you'd know better to provide the positives and negatives.
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Re: In case you missed it and wanna see [skylab] by allmet33
Nov 25, 2008 (8:51 am)
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Replying to: skylab (Nov 25, 2008 7:37 am)

Thanks. Didn't look to be getting too sloppy while those guys were slinging it through the corners on the track.
 
In all fairness...the track is smooth, but even the testers mentioned that even though the suspension is bit softer than they would like, the Genesis maintained a great deal of poise in corners. Also, there wasn't any mention of unstable driving when they drove over the raised edge markers along the course either. I would think if it was truly and issue to be raised, it would have been brought up there. The Genesis looked really good coming out of some of those corners.
 
I think, for what the car really is...it's more than adequate and I believe in what the overall Genesis experience offers, it more than makes up for any suspension imperfections that may come up when the car is pushed hard. However, that's just MY opinion.
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Re: Car & Driver on the Genesis [carolinabob] by backy
Nov 25, 2008 (8:56 am)
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Replying to: carolinabob (Nov 25, 2008 7:55 am)

Funny you did not cite the longer, follow-up real road test where they had very serious concerns about the suspension and possibly the transmission/computer. October issue.
 
Actually I did--you didn't notice the 2nd set of quotes with the link to that review (republished on another web site) I guess. Not sure what you mean by "serious concerns about the transmission/computer" though. Did you mean this?
 
We also give high marks to the ZF six-speed automatic for smooth operation, although there are a couple of demerits. It lacks the paddle shifters that are de rigueur for sports sedans today, and it will upshift on its own in sport mode. A bigger problem with the transmission in our test car was premature upshifting, well below the car’s 6750-rpm redline, regardless of driver input. This held the Genesis back in acceleration runs, where it took six seconds to reach 60 mph and clocked the quarter-mile in 14.5 seconds at 101 mph. Our August preview test, conducted at Hyundai’s proving grounds in Korea, yielded 0 to 60 in 5.6 seconds and the quarter in 14.1 at 103 mph.
 
Hyundai techs tried reflashing the transmission’s computer but to no avail, so we put this down as a preproduction anomaly and expect showroom-ready cars to perform very much like our preview-test car.

 
That was the only reference to a computer in the entire review. IMO that is not a "serious concern." But if someone were looking for any possible reason not to like the car, I guess it could be.
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Re: Hyundai does not want to hear from consumers or anybody. [sanjaysdca] by tayl0rd
Nov 25, 2008 (8:57 am)
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Replying to: sanjaysdca (Nov 25, 2008 7:39 am)

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I had an extremely bad experience at Hyundai... where the Salesman at Kerney Mesa Hyundai told me that "Genesis probably is too rich for you"...wrote a letter to Hyundai customer service...

 
And that's where you went wrong. The manufacturers don't control the dealerships. You should have written/called the General Manager of the dealership to report your grievance. Give that a try, and express that you had serious intentions of buying one of the vehicles. You'll be surprised how quickly the GM will apologize to you and try to get you back in to give them another try. In the background, the salesman you had issue with will more than likely be reprimanded and possibly fired if he's a poor performer. Dealerships are in the business of making money, and they don't want salesmen on the floor who are chasing off potential customers.
 
Please try that route and see what happens. Otherwise, give it a rest already!
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Re: Hyundai does not want to hear from consumers or anybody. [carolinabob] by joe97
Nov 25, 2008 (9:03 am)
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Replying to: carolinabob (Nov 25, 2008 8:04 am)

Precisely. As I said Lexus and others have welcomed input from me and others. That is how any real corporation improves itself - by seeking and utilizing consumer input.
 
Lexus followed up with you on your purchase decision. That was very nice of them. On Hyundai, you made suggestions about features, packaging, etc, automakers reserve the right not to share with the public its future products. Sorry you didn't get the response you wanted but that's corporate policy pretty much across all industry.
 
Two different scenarios.
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Re: Update after 8,500 miles [carolinabob] by colegar
Nov 25, 2008 (9:52 am)
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Replying to: carolinabob (Nov 23, 2008 1:29 pm)

Sorry for the late response ... I have been traveling. Yes, I bought it in Greenville (where I live). You mentioned that you would like to see more of the 4.6 features on the 3.8. I happened to be at the dealer when they received a fully loaded 4.6 and it appeared to be identical to my 3.8 except for different styled wheels. My 3.8 is fully loaded with the tech pack. They let me drive the 4.6. It was surprisingly similar around town, meaning that my first impression was that the performance advantage in local driving was very minimal. However, at 50MPH or above if you really tromp on the accelerator, the 4.6 will overhaul the 3.8. But I will emphasize again that I did not find much difference in "normal" driving and I did not get out of the 4.6 thinking that I should have waited. I am not a poky driver either!
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Re: Update after 8,500 miles [colegar] by allmet33
Nov 25, 2008 (10:14 am)
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Replying to: colegar (Nov 25, 2008 9:52 am)

One thing I can tell you, the leather in the 4.6 is different than that in the 3.8. The leather has a finer grain to it. If you go to the website...you can see it for yourself. Also, the 4.6 gets the wood grain/leather steering wheel, whereas the 3.8 only gets the leather wrapped one. Lastly, the 4.6 gets the illuminated door sill scuff plates. Other than that, most of the other options that can be found in the 4.6, can be had in the 3.8, but only if you get the tech package.
 
As far as not feeling a difference between 290hp as opposed to 375 hp at lower speeds...sounds almost crazy. I would imagine the difference to be like me going from my '02 Sonata (170 hp) to my Azera (263 hp). Even easing into the gas pedal, it was a clear difference. But then again, you are expressing YOUR perception of the whole thing.
 
Personally, for the few thousand more the 4.6 costs...I would most likely go that route. I mean, to get all the bells and whistles that are offered, plus the 375 hp and not take a huge hit in the FE department...yeah, to me it would be worth it. However, it seems I'll have to wait on the coupe to come out as I can't convince the wife that letting my paid for Azera go in the pot as trade for the Genesis sedan. She would like a little running around car (a coupe if you will) and so that would be a fair trade off...I get my Genesis and she gets her coupe!

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