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Re: Car & Driver on the Genesis [allmet33] by tayl0rd
Nov 25, 2008 (6:37 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 24, 2008 2:21 pm)

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To the fault of Hyundai, they should have made the Genesis look more stately and less athletic...

 
I think that's exactly what they did. The Genesis [sedan] doesn't look "athletic" at all, to me.
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Re: Car & Driver on the Genesis [tayl0rd] by allmet33
Nov 25, 2008 (6:49 am)
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Nov 25, 2008 6:37 am)

Take for instance...the Kia Amanti and the Hyundai Azera...mechancially identicle vehicles and yet...less is expected from the Amanti in terms of handling as opposed to the Azera. The Azera is a more athletic looking car, coupled with the decent power it has, it would seem to be a car that should be "driven". The Amanti looks like nothing more than a car you would either cruise around town in.
 
The Genesis takes cues from the Infiniti M and the Lexus LS in terms of looks and folks are expecting it to "run" like it looks.
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Re: In case you missed it and wanna see [allmet33] by skylab
Nov 25, 2008 (7:37 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 25, 2008 6:28 am)

Thanks. Didn't look to be getting too sloppy while those guys were slinging it through the corners on the track.
 
As previously noted, the fact that Hyundai went with a modern suspension design probably means that allaying the initial concerns in that area will be just a matter of getting the tuning right for the market. It's not like they cheaped out with a solid rear axle or something and are now stuck with it for this generation.
 
Other than that, the video just reinforced my impression that it's a good-looking car in motion.
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Re: Hyundai does not want to hear from consumers or anybody. [chuck1] by sanjaysdca
Nov 25, 2008 (7:39 am)
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Replying to: chuck1 (Nov 24, 2008 10:27 pm)

Why do you feel motivated to contact the manufacturers?
 
I guess if you are passionate about the car then if car or the dealer lets you down that gives you a motivation to contact the manufacturer.
 
We had two infinitis..In sept I replaced one Infiniti with a Acura and sent a letter to Infiniti why I did not replace Infiniti with another one...
 
Guess what got two phone calls, Nice friendly conversation, and some coupons for servicing the one infiniti that I have.
 
I had an extremely bad experience at Hyundai... where the Salesman at Kerney Mesa Hyundai told me that "Genesis probably is too rich for you"...wrote a letter to Hyundai customer service... Two months and still waiting for response...
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Re: Car & Driver on the Genesis [backy] by carolinabob
Nov 25, 2008 (7:55 am)
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Replying to: backy (Nov 24, 2008 1:24 pm)

Funny you did not cite the longer, follow-up real road test where they had very serious concerns about the suspension and possibly the transmission/computer. October issue.
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Re: Genesis on "24" [dean3927] by joe97
Nov 25, 2008 (8:01 am)
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Replying to: dean3927 (Nov 25, 2008 2:18 am)

Thanks. I saw the replay last night. It was a Genesis sedan, dang I got my hopes up on the coupe - I was misled
 
Anyway, the silver Genesis sedan looked good nonetheless. I believe it's the V8 Genesis.
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Re: Hyundai does not want to hear from consumers or anybody. [sanjaysdca] by carolinabob
Nov 25, 2008 (8:04 am)
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Replying to: sanjaysdca (Nov 25, 2008 7:39 am)

Precisely. As I said Lexus and others have welcomed input from me and others. That is how any real corporation improves itself - by seeking and utilizing consumer input.
  Both the Hyundai Santa Fe and Genesis are off my prospective lists now and probably won't return. Would rather pay more for a Lexus, Acura or Infiniti and purchase from a company that appreciates conusmers and has great dealer networks and customer service.
   Glad to hear that Toyota and GM are looking at Genesis. Means that in a couple of years their cars will be comparably equipped, better supported, more reliable and customers more appreciated than Hyundai.
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Re: Car & Driver on the Genesis [carolinabob] by joe97
Nov 25, 2008 (8:17 am)
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Replying to: carolinabob (Nov 25, 2008 7:55 am)

Why are you so fixated on those two reviews? More specifically, that one point, out of the many other points the reviewers made. There are also tons of other reviews you can reference...
 
If the suspension was indeed an issue, wouldn't more reviews point it out? Wouldn't we hear from all of customers?
 
And, if you were trying to advocate readers and shoppers as you put it, you'd know better to provide the positives and negatives.
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Re: In case you missed it and wanna see [skylab] by allmet33
Nov 25, 2008 (8:51 am)
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Replying to: skylab (Nov 25, 2008 7:37 am)

Thanks. Didn't look to be getting too sloppy while those guys were slinging it through the corners on the track.
 
In all fairness...the track is smooth, but even the testers mentioned that even though the suspension is bit softer than they would like, the Genesis maintained a great deal of poise in corners. Also, there wasn't any mention of unstable driving when they drove over the raised edge markers along the course either. I would think if it was truly and issue to be raised, it would have been brought up there. The Genesis looked really good coming out of some of those corners.
 
I think, for what the car really is...it's more than adequate and I believe in what the overall Genesis experience offers, it more than makes up for any suspension imperfections that may come up when the car is pushed hard. However, that's just MY opinion.
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Re: Car & Driver on the Genesis [carolinabob] by backy
Nov 25, 2008 (8:56 am)
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Replying to: carolinabob (Nov 25, 2008 7:55 am)

Funny you did not cite the longer, follow-up real road test where they had very serious concerns about the suspension and possibly the transmission/computer. October issue.
 
Actually I did--you didn't notice the 2nd set of quotes with the link to that review (republished on another web site) I guess. Not sure what you mean by "serious concerns about the transmission/computer" though. Did you mean this?
 
We also give high marks to the ZF six-speed automatic for smooth operation, although there are a couple of demerits. It lacks the paddle shifters that are de rigueur for sports sedans today, and it will upshift on its own in sport mode. A bigger problem with the transmission in our test car was premature upshifting, well below the car’s 6750-rpm redline, regardless of driver input. This held the Genesis back in acceleration runs, where it took six seconds to reach 60 mph and clocked the quarter-mile in 14.5 seconds at 101 mph. Our August preview test, conducted at Hyundai’s proving grounds in Korea, yielded 0 to 60 in 5.6 seconds and the quarter in 14.1 at 103 mph.
 
Hyundai techs tried reflashing the transmission’s computer but to no avail, so we put this down as a preproduction anomaly and expect showroom-ready cars to perform very much like our preview-test car.

 
That was the only reference to a computer in the entire review. IMO that is not a "serious concern." But if someone were looking for any possible reason not to like the car, I guess it could be.

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