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Re: Car & Driver on the Genesis [allmet33] by marvinlee1
Nov 24, 2008 (6:18 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 24, 2008 2:21 pm)

Part of the diverse opinions on Genesis suspension may reflect differing personal preferences by the car reviewers. Some may want a cushy ride at the expense of ultimate handling while others care less about the ride but want great handling ability. Upscale car makers try to find a balance that they hope will appeal to the greatest number of actual, prospective, car buyers. Hyundai has not yet had years of Genesis production to create a stable set of customer expectations. In time, it will be accepted for its own particular set of driving characteristics.
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Re: Hyundai does not want to hear from consumers or anybody. [carolinabob] by chuck1
Nov 24, 2008 (10:27 pm)
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Replying to: carolinabob (Nov 24, 2008 8:47 am)

A question here-
 
Why do you feel motivated to contact the manufacturers?
 
I have purchased many, many new cars and have not been motivated to send a letter as to why I didn't buy one.
 
Car manufacturers have been known NOT TO LISTEN to their own consumer focus groups.
 
I know that popular authors have the same policy....not to accept story outlines from the general public.
 
The reasons for litigation should be obvious......
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Genesis on "24" by dean3927
Nov 25, 2008 (2:18 am)
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Replying to: joe97 (Nov 24, 2008 1:19 pm)

Hey Joe:
 
There was a black Santa Fe in the beginning of the episode, then there was a very nice looking silver Genesis around the 23 minute mark.
 
Hyundai really got a good plug: they featured the driver using the "iDrive."
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Re: Car & Driver on the Genesis [marvinlee1] by lokki
Nov 25, 2008 (6:24 am)
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Replying to: marvinlee1 (Nov 24, 2008 6:18 pm)

Marvinlee -
You've hit the nail on the head exactly:
 
Some may want a cushy ride at the expense of ultimate handling while others care less about the ride but want great handling ability.
 
The Genesis isn't a BMW but why should it be? The Lexus doesn't aim for the handling levels of the BMW and it sells just fine, thank you. I have a 3 Series BMW, and one of the things that I notice when people ride with me is how disappointed they are in the ride comfort and the luxury level of the interior. It doesn't match their expectations of a "luxury car". Well, for me it's fine, because I like the driving experience, and I don't mind the 'rough' ride or the acceleration 'lurch' when I hit the gas. But those thinking 'luxury' are unimpressed.
 
I think that Genesis has made a wise choice to lean towards the Lexus side of the equation. The handling is good, but not at the expense of prioritizing the luxury and comfort levels. For those (whom I think are) in the target market, the ability to slide around mountain bends is going to be an unused ability, but fast, quiet freeway cruising is an everyday requirement.
 
I also think that a slow rollout is a wise decision. IF the unexpected quality glitch happens at rollout (and they can happen to any company ) it's a lot better to have a smaller number of cars out there. You can give better customer service while correcting it if you have 15,000 cars than if you have 50,000. When starting a new line of cars, how you handle the problems that occur is a very important part of the introduction.
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Re: Funny! [sandy25] by allmet33
Nov 25, 2008 (6:26 am)
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Replying to: sandy25 (Nov 24, 2008 4:50 pm)

Sandy25...I'm with you on this. I was posting in response to someone that had asked the question as to why they are not seen frequently.
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In case you missed it and wanna see by allmet33
Nov 25, 2008 (6:28 am)
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Here's a link to the Speed Channel's Hyundai Genesis test drive...
 
Test Drive Video
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Re: Car & Driver on the Genesis [allmet33] by tayl0rd
Nov 25, 2008 (6:37 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 24, 2008 2:21 pm)

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To the fault of Hyundai, they should have made the Genesis look more stately and less athletic...

 
I think that's exactly what they did. The Genesis [sedan] doesn't look "athletic" at all, to me.
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Re: Car & Driver on the Genesis [tayl0rd] by allmet33
Nov 25, 2008 (6:49 am)
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Nov 25, 2008 6:37 am)

Take for instance...the Kia Amanti and the Hyundai Azera...mechancially identicle vehicles and yet...less is expected from the Amanti in terms of handling as opposed to the Azera. The Azera is a more athletic looking car, coupled with the decent power it has, it would seem to be a car that should be "driven". The Amanti looks like nothing more than a car you would either cruise around town in.
 
The Genesis takes cues from the Infiniti M and the Lexus LS in terms of looks and folks are expecting it to "run" like it looks.
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Re: In case you missed it and wanna see [allmet33] by skylab
Nov 25, 2008 (7:37 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 25, 2008 6:28 am)

Thanks. Didn't look to be getting too sloppy while those guys were slinging it through the corners on the track.
 
As previously noted, the fact that Hyundai went with a modern suspension design probably means that allaying the initial concerns in that area will be just a matter of getting the tuning right for the market. It's not like they cheaped out with a solid rear axle or something and are now stuck with it for this generation.
 
Other than that, the video just reinforced my impression that it's a good-looking car in motion.

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