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Re: Car & Driver on the Genesis [backy] by allmet33
Nov 24, 2008 (2:21 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Nov 24, 2008 1:24 pm)

You know Backy...I'm starting to believe that the reason some folks are so hard on the suspension of the Genesis is that they want it to be something more than it really is. It's not enough that it offers a ride equal to that of a Lexus, Infiniti or MB for a lot less, but there are those that are convinced that it must be equal to that of the BMW in handling as well to be taken seriously.
 
In all honesty, when the Genesis is driven in the manner it was designed to be driven (as a luxo-cruiser)...there are really no issues with the suspension. When the car is pushed and driven as one would drive a BMW...that is when the problems show up. As you said, it's not a BMW and if you want a car to handle like one...go buy one.
 
On the flip side of all this, I will admit...it is hard to not want to push the Genesis when you're in the driver's seat. It doesn't have that snap-your-head-back acceleration you would get with a BMW, but I guarantee this much...mash the gas pedal down and before you know it, you'll be saying "Whoa...I didn't realize..." It's a very smooth accelerating car and when you realize how easily it can achieve speeds in excess of 75 mph, it makes you wanna drive it in such a manner.
 
To the fault of Hyundai, they should have made the Genesis look more stately and less athletic (sorta like how the Kia Amanti looks...nobody expects it to offer any sort of performance style handling), maybe then folks wouldn't expect a luxo-cruiser to carve up twisting winding roads like a sport sedan.
 
Hyundai may be able to emulate quite a bit in terms of luxury, but it's not going to get EVERYTHING right. To be quite honest, for the money Hyundai is asking for the Genesis (in any trim level), they got more than plenty right.
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lease deals for 12/08? by bashogrebash
Nov 24, 2008 (2:46 pm)
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does anyone know what the residuals and money factor will be for the month of December? Tryin to decide if I should wait another week or pull the trigger now...
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Re: Car & Driver on the Genesis [allmet33] by backy
Nov 24, 2008 (3:30 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 24, 2008 2:21 pm)

All I know is, the Genesis V6 had tons more handling capability when I drove it on a test course (and was encouraged to push it to the limits) than I would ever need in the real world. I recognize some people won't be satisfied with that, but there are other cars for them.
 
BMW has been tops in handling for luxury sedans for, how long? But some expect Hyundai to match or exceed BMW in that area on its first attempt. Whatever.
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Re: Funny! [allmet33] by sandy25
Nov 24, 2008 (4:50 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 24, 2008 1:54 pm)

Why we don't see a lot of Genesis on the road: Let's say Hyundai has 4000 Genesis on the road. I remember seeing a report putting the number of cars on the road in the US at 135,000,000. Do the math. I like the odds...part of the fun of driving one.
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Re: Car & Driver on the Genesis [allmet33] by marvinlee1
Nov 24, 2008 (6:18 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 24, 2008 2:21 pm)

Part of the diverse opinions on Genesis suspension may reflect differing personal preferences by the car reviewers. Some may want a cushy ride at the expense of ultimate handling while others care less about the ride but want great handling ability. Upscale car makers try to find a balance that they hope will appeal to the greatest number of actual, prospective, car buyers. Hyundai has not yet had years of Genesis production to create a stable set of customer expectations. In time, it will be accepted for its own particular set of driving characteristics.
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Re: Hyundai does not want to hear from consumers or anybody. [carolinabob] by chuck1
Nov 24, 2008 (10:27 pm)
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Replying to: carolinabob (Nov 24, 2008 8:47 am)

A question here-
 
Why do you feel motivated to contact the manufacturers?
 
I have purchased many, many new cars and have not been motivated to send a letter as to why I didn't buy one.
 
Car manufacturers have been known NOT TO LISTEN to their own consumer focus groups.
 
I know that popular authors have the same policy....not to accept story outlines from the general public.
 
The reasons for litigation should be obvious......
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Genesis on "24" by dean3927
Nov 25, 2008 (2:18 am)
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Replying to: joe97 (Nov 24, 2008 1:19 pm)

Hey Joe:
 
There was a black Santa Fe in the beginning of the episode, then there was a very nice looking silver Genesis around the 23 minute mark.
 
Hyundai really got a good plug: they featured the driver using the "iDrive."
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Re: Car & Driver on the Genesis [marvinlee1] by lokki
Nov 25, 2008 (6:24 am)
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Replying to: marvinlee1 (Nov 24, 2008 6:18 pm)

Marvinlee -
You've hit the nail on the head exactly:
 
Some may want a cushy ride at the expense of ultimate handling while others care less about the ride but want great handling ability.
 
The Genesis isn't a BMW but why should it be? The Lexus doesn't aim for the handling levels of the BMW and it sells just fine, thank you. I have a 3 Series BMW, and one of the things that I notice when people ride with me is how disappointed they are in the ride comfort and the luxury level of the interior. It doesn't match their expectations of a "luxury car". Well, for me it's fine, because I like the driving experience, and I don't mind the 'rough' ride or the acceleration 'lurch' when I hit the gas. But those thinking 'luxury' are unimpressed.
 
I think that Genesis has made a wise choice to lean towards the Lexus side of the equation. The handling is good, but not at the expense of prioritizing the luxury and comfort levels. For those (whom I think are) in the target market, the ability to slide around mountain bends is going to be an unused ability, but fast, quiet freeway cruising is an everyday requirement.
 
I also think that a slow rollout is a wise decision. IF the unexpected quality glitch happens at rollout (and they can happen to any company ) it's a lot better to have a smaller number of cars out there. You can give better customer service while correcting it if you have 15,000 cars than if you have 50,000. When starting a new line of cars, how you handle the problems that occur is a very important part of the introduction.
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Re: Funny! [sandy25] by allmet33
Nov 25, 2008 (6:26 am)
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Replying to: sandy25 (Nov 24, 2008 4:50 pm)

Sandy25...I'm with you on this. I was posting in response to someone that had asked the question as to why they are not seen frequently.

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