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Re: Update after 8,500 miles [allmet33] by joe97
Nov 24, 2008 (11:15 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 24, 2008 9:46 am)

On a similar note, someone said on the 24 Redemption last night, one of the characters was driving a Hyundai Genesis coupe - anyone caught it?
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Re: Funny! [allmet33] by joe97
Nov 24, 2008 (11:18 am)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 24, 2008 11:08 am)

I think GM and Toyota bought them back in July. The 1,200 deliveries last month were all retail if I am not mistaken.
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Re: Funny! [joe97] by allmet33
Nov 24, 2008 (11:24 am)
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Replying to: joe97 (Nov 24, 2008 11:18 am)

Not sure, the article mentions this took place within a month of the car being on the market. That being said...July wasn't the magic month it was supposed to be. I most markets I'm aware of, the Genesis really didn't become available until September.
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Re: Update after 8,500 miles [joe97] by tenpin288
Nov 24, 2008 (11:30 am)
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Replying to: joe97 (Nov 24, 2008 11:15 am)

At the very beginning, one of the characters was driven to the kid's school in a Santa Fe. Sprint/Nextel and Cisco also had some high-profile product placements in that show last night.
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Re: Update after 8,500 miles [joe97] by allmet33
Nov 24, 2008 (11:55 am)
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Replying to: joe97 (Nov 24, 2008 11:15 am)

A coupe...already?!?! Nah...I missed it, busy watching the game. Good to see Hyundai getting some face time in situations usually dominated by the American makes.
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Re: Update after 8,500 miles [tenpin288] by joe97
Nov 24, 2008 (1:19 pm)
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Replying to: tenpin288 (Nov 24, 2008 11:30 am)

Thanks. Will have to check it out episode replay on fox.com
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Re: Funny! [allmet33] by joe97
Nov 24, 2008 (1:22 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Nov 24, 2008 11:24 am)

The article was dated in August, so I ventured the purchase took place sometimes in July, which was the first full month of product availability, even though it didn't become fully available like you said, until September.
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Car & Driver on the Genesis by backy
Nov 24, 2008 (1:24 pm)
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The suspension, as well, is as sophisti­cated as they come. The four main links on the two front corners are each attached to the hub with a ball joint. This arrangement locates the steering axis much closer to the center of the tire’s contact patch than it would with a conventional unequal-length control-arm suspension, which should im­prove steering feel and reduce bump steer. It’s an expensive setup, made more so by the use of lightweight aluminum for the links, knuckles, and brackets, and fur­ther evidence that Hyundai is making a serious effort here.
 
Our brief driving impression revealed well-controlled drive motions, predictable handling, and an excellent powertrain. We’ll need more time behind the wheel to be sure, but all signs point toward a well-tuned chassis. We’re not sug­gesting banishing that 5-series just yet, as the Genesis is tuned more for Lexus-like isolation than BMW-like involvement. And that, at least ideologically, is one of the few minor shortcomings of the Genesis. Lexus makes fine cars, to be sure, but the Ger­mans and Infiniti have more to offer in the fun-to-drive category.
 
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/car_shopping/family_four_doors/200- 9_hyundai_genesis_4_6_short_take_road_test/(page)/1
 
Though we have reservations about this new car’s membership in the premium-sports-sedan club, Hyundai has otherwise done everything right, including impressive fit and finish. Given the company’s short history—the Korean industrial conglomerate didn’t even have an automotive division until 1967—it’s an amazing achievement.
 
Though falling short of the BMW’s sporting standard, the Genesis is better on fast back roads than the cushy Lexus LS460 and way better than the loosey-goosey Toyota Avalon.
 
http://www.nospeedlimit.com/car-and-driver-road-test-2009-hyundai-genesis-46
 
So, other than the Genesis V8 not matching the 528i in handling prowess--which is not at all surprising--what is this big issue with the Genesis' suspension that keeps being raised?
 
If you want a car that handles like a BMW, get a BMW. If you want something like a Lexus luxo-cruiser but for a lot less money, the Genesis is a good alternative.
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Re: Funny! [joe97] by allmet33
Nov 24, 2008 (1:54 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (Nov 24, 2008 1:22 pm)

Ahhhhhh...so right you are.
 
With that being said, IF Hyundai averaged 1000 units per month since September that would total less than 3000 sold. Makes sense as to why a lot of folks aren't really seeing them on the roads much. This is basically the same thing that happened when the '02 Sonata & the '06 Azera dropped. It took almost a year before you started seeing them on the road with any type of regularity.
 
I honestly believe the coupe will fare better simply because of the aftermarket push it will have already generated as Hyundai has released pre-production models to some aftermarket shops to create bolt on parts for it. I think the Tiburon crowd will be the first to jump on them as well as those shopping the coupes from the premium brands.
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Re: Car & Driver on the Genesis [backy] by allmet33
Nov 24, 2008 (2:21 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Nov 24, 2008 1:24 pm)

You know Backy...I'm starting to believe that the reason some folks are so hard on the suspension of the Genesis is that they want it to be something more than it really is. It's not enough that it offers a ride equal to that of a Lexus, Infiniti or MB for a lot less, but there are those that are convinced that it must be equal to that of the BMW in handling as well to be taken seriously.
 
In all honesty, when the Genesis is driven in the manner it was designed to be driven (as a luxo-cruiser)...there are really no issues with the suspension. When the car is pushed and driven as one would drive a BMW...that is when the problems show up. As you said, it's not a BMW and if you want a car to handle like one...go buy one.
 
On the flip side of all this, I will admit...it is hard to not want to push the Genesis when you're in the driver's seat. It doesn't have that snap-your-head-back acceleration you would get with a BMW, but I guarantee this much...mash the gas pedal down and before you know it, you'll be saying "Whoa...I didn't realize..." It's a very smooth accelerating car and when you realize how easily it can achieve speeds in excess of 75 mph, it makes you wanna drive it in such a manner.
 
To the fault of Hyundai, they should have made the Genesis look more stately and less athletic (sorta like how the Kia Amanti looks...nobody expects it to offer any sort of performance style handling), maybe then folks wouldn't expect a luxo-cruiser to carve up twisting winding roads like a sport sedan.
 
Hyundai may be able to emulate quite a bit in terms of luxury, but it's not going to get EVERYTHING right. To be quite honest, for the money Hyundai is asking for the Genesis (in any trim level), they got more than plenty right.

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